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hi forum members   I have been doing research in South Africa of the van zweel family for the past 5 years and have been able to establish that the  family originated in the Netherlands. our forefather was actually called Johannes Havinga and he was from the farm Zweeloo in the province Drenthe in Groningen hence the name van zweel.   thus far i have the following information:
  1. a death notice from SA Archives for Schultatus Nicolaus Havinga van Zweel *22/6/1776,Zweeloo, Province Drenthe. he died 27/12/1861, Buitendact No43, Kaapstad South Africa.  this death notice gives Johannes Havinga en Judit Tideman as his parents. the death notice also give Emil wilhelm van Zweel * +-1830 Hamburg, Germany, as the son of Schultatus Nicolaus van Zweel.
  2. Johannes and Judit had two other children e.g. Jan Rudolph Havinga * 28 Jun 1771 and Gesina Havinga * 10 Sep 1773
  3. Johannes' occupation is given in sensus forms as that of Predikant. it does not state which denomination
  4.  Schultetus N Havinga van Zweel's occupation is given as a Medical Doctor on his death notice.
i would like assistance to find out the following:
  1. did Schultatus qualify as a medical doctor in the Netherlands, who was his wife, when did they marry. did they only have this one child. why did the family travel to germany (i'm assuming they did because this is where their son was born)
  2. is it possible to find out how,why and when Schultatus Nicolaus H v Zweel came to South Africa?
  3. What is the date of birth of Johannes Havinga en Judit Tideman (parents of Schultatus Nicolaus Havinga van Zweel). their marriage information state that they were jongeheer en jongedame at time of marriage.
  4. i would like to find out what happened to Jan Rudolp Havinga and Gesina Havinga (the other two children of Johannes an Judith) and when did they die. 
  5. did Jan Rudolph and Gesina have any children?
  6. Johannes was a Predikant, i would like to find out which denomination and for how long.  where did he study.  who was his parents, where was he born etc.  i have no further information about Johannes Havings.
  7. also i would like to find out whether there are any photos of Johannes Havinga as predikant available anywhere?  when and where did he die and what was the cause of death.
i am not familiar with the geography or history of the Netherlands. i will really appreciate any assistance i can get to try and put together some form of picture of who our forefather was and how and where he lived and who his parents were and where they came from. i hope this is not a too tall order and that someone will be able to help me.   Groetnis Ursulah Kambassadeur - Mosambiek Navorser van Families van Zweel, van der Linde, Espach, Kruger, Fourie & janse van Rensburg

Ursulah van Rensburg | 14 mei 2009 | 11:31

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Hi,

I only can give you some information to ask your questions:

First, the website of Zweeloo with a picture of the old church from 1252.

 

http://www.coevorden.nl/web/show/id=126095

you find at the bottom the protestant church from 1252, where (probably) Havinga was the vicar.

 

Moreover, the municipality of Coevorden counts five societies for local history:

 

http://www.coevorden.nl/web/show/id=119636

There you find five Societies for local history, also the historical society of Zweeloo. Most historical societies has a projectgroup for genealogy. But they have no e-mail. Perhaps via the others?

 

Harrie

harrie.lamers | 14 mei 2009 | 12:06

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harrie

thank you very much for the information

i appreciate it

will make contact with the various organisations

groete

ursualh

Ursulah van Rensburg | 14 mei 2009 | 12:16

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Gesina HAVINGA
  • BIRTH: 10 SEP 1773
  • BAPTISM: 12 SEP 1773
  • DEATH: 28 AUG 1812

Father: Johannes Havinga
Mother: Judith Tideman

Source: http://koning.mijnthuis.net/d0000/g0000062.html#I1378

Rob Roeleveld | 14 mei 2009 | 12:49

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Persoonskaart van Johannes Havinga

 

Johannes Havinga, geb. te Groningen, predikant, otr. te Coevorden op 28 apr 1769,  tr. te Coevorden op 24 mei 1769, met Judith Tideman, (herkomst: Coevorden). 

 

Uit dit huwelijk 4 kinderen

 

1. Schultenius Havinga, geb. te Zweeloo, ged. te Zweeloo op 1 apr 1770.

 

2. Jan Rudolph Havinga, geb. te Zweeloo op 28 jun 1771, ged. te Zweeloo op 30 jun 1771.

 

3. Gesina Havinga, geb. te Zweeloo op 10 sep 1773, ged. te Zweeloo op 12 sep 1773.

 

4. Schultetus Nicolaus Havinga, geb. te Zweeloo op 22 jun 1776, ged. te Zweeloo op 30 jun

    1776.

 

mokummer | 14 mei 2009 | 12:58

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Registration of announcement of marriage

Date: 03-10-1795 

Place: City of Groningen - Province: Groningen - The Netherlands

Bride: Gesina Havinga - born in Zweelo - Province: Drenthe - The Netherlands

Groom: Jacobus Albertus Uilkens - born in Wierum - Province: Groningen

 

Note: this means that the actual date of marriage was some time later.

 

Source:

Ondertrouwboek Groningen 1792-1798
Collectie DTB (toegang 124)
Inventarisnummer 186, folio 170

 

Registration of marriage

Date: 28-10-1795 

Place: Bellingeweer en Ranum - Province: Groningen - The Netherlands

Groom: Jacobus Albertus Uilkens, born in Wierum - Province: Groningen

Bride: Gesina Havinga, born in Zweelo - Province: Drenthe - The Netherlands

Note: Jacobus was studying theology at that time and had a doctorate in philosophy

 

Source:

Doop- en trouwboek Bellingeweer en Ranum 1729-1811
Collectie DTB (toegang 124)
Inventarisnummer 33, folio 62v

 

Birth of children 

Name: Theodorus Frederucus (Uilkens)

Date: 25-4-1812

Place: Eenrum - Province: Groningen - The Netherlands

 

Source:

Geboorteregister Eenrum 1812
Aktenummer 20

 

Important note:

Gesina Havinga - probably died before 20-06-1813 because at that date a marriage of Jacobus Albertus Uilkens with Barbera Martens Teenstra is registered.

 

Father of Gesina Havinga 

Name: Johannes Havinga - 80 years old

Death: 20-08-1814

Place: Eenrum - Province: Groningen - The Netherlands

Occupation: Predikant

Notes in the text of the registration:

" leaving behind one son and three grandchildren"  & " widow"

Notes: Date of birth therefore [born before 20-08-1734]

 

Source:

Groninger Archieven (=City and province together)

 

Gesina Havinga 

Death: 28-08-1812 - 38 years old

Place: Eenrum - Province: Groningen - The Netherlands

 

Notes: in her death certificate her name is writen as ' Gezina'

 

Source:

Groninger Archieven (=City and province together)

Mother of Gesina Havinga 

Name: Judith Empreur (also written as "L' Empereur" and "Lampereus")

Baptised: 10-12-1739 - City of Groningen; Church: Nieuwe Kerk

Father: Rudolph Tideman

Mother: Geesien Empreur (also written as ' Geessien' )

 

Source:

Algemeen doopboek Groningen 1733-1754
Collectie DTB (toegang 124)
Inventarisnummer 150, folio 075

 

Source:

Groninger Archieven (=City and province together)

Rob Roeleveld | 14 mei 2009 | 13:31

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mokummer | 14 mei 2009 | 13:58

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mokummer | 14 mei 2009 | 14:01

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" also i would like to find out whether there are any photos of Johannes Havinga as predikant available anywhere? "

 

In that time (before 1800) there were no photos!

mokummer | 14 mei 2009 | 15:06

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hi rob

thank you very much for this information.  it is very helpfull

thank you for the effort you put into getting this information for me

i really appreciate it

groete

ursulah

Ursulah van Rensburg | 14 mei 2009 | 15:08

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hi mokummer

thank you very much for this information.  it is very helpfull. this is exactly what i was looking for

thank you for the effort you put into getting this information for me

i really appreciate it

groete

ursulah

Ursulah van Rensburg | 14 mei 2009 | 15:09

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Hi Rob

thank you very much once again for this information.  it is very helpfull

thank you for the effort you put into getting this information for me

i really appreciate it this is exactly what i was looking for

groete

ursulah

Ursulah van Rensburg | 14 mei 2009 | 15:11

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You're welcome. I have updated my contribution: see text.

Rob Roeleveld | 14 mei 2009 | 15:14

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Hi Rob

Thank you very much for all this trouble your going throug helping me in finding information about Johannes Havinga.  i really appreciate all your effort

thank you once again, this is exactly the kind of information i was looking for

groete

ursulah

Ursulah van Rensburg | 14 mei 2009 | 15:16

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Hi Mokummer

i do not understand the pictures your attached to your message.  could you please explain image

"Rectore Arnoldo Rotgersio"

what does this pertain to.

groete

ursulah

Ursulah van Rensburg | 14 mei 2009 | 15:20

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