Hallo Gerry, zeker een mooie.

Goed van jou!!!!

Kan niet missen verwijderd.Maar moet een Hendrika zijn  Zag in een latere post dat het ook Hannah kon zijn

ik ga nog maar eens zoeken.

Groet

I believe all were born in Holland in or about Duiven

Link: http://genforum.genealogy.com/burger/messages/66.html

Wilhelmus van 10/11/1824 zal Fredrik zijn.( de voorzoon )

Echtgenoot Bogardus Fredericus born 11/25/22 klopt natuurlijk niet, hij is in 1844 overleden.( zoon )

Renovo is een plaats in de Amerikaanse staat Pennsylvania, en valt bestuurlijk gezien onder Clinton County.

Toevoeging: 15.46

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-BENELUX/1997-10/0877970871

I am researching the name BURGERS of Duiven, Holland in the time 1822 to
1838.
The children of unknown parents are:

Burgardus BURGERS geb 25 Nov. 1822
Wilhelmus BURGERS geb 11 Oct. 1824
Margarta BURGERS geb 13 April 1831, died 29 Feb 1866
Catharina BURGERS geb1 Jun. 1833 (b.30 May, 1833), died 25 Mar 1879
Renovo, PA
Gerardus BURGERS geb 7 Feb. 1835
Handrika BURGERS geb 16 Feb 1837, died 1907 Also called Hanna
Henriaus BURGERS geb 8 Oct.1838

Burgardus married Katrinas Van Buren
Catherina married Ferdinand Selle. This couple is my g-g parents.
This family apparently came to the Clinton County, Pennsylvania sometime
before 1868.
Any information on this family and decendants would be appreciated. I
have extensive
information on the SELLE and SIMPSON family to share.

Top Gerry,

Als MJA was zou ik contact opnemen.

Hopend dat het email. adres nog goed is.

Mvg.

Dankjewel Elisabeth en als er verder nog iets gevonden wordt dan horen wij dat natuurlijk graag !!!

met vriendelijke groet,

Dag Gerry en Elisabeth,

Wat geweldig die vondst, Gerry ! Super.

Ik heb de betrokken plaatser van het bericht gemaild en ik krijg gelukkig de mail niet als onbestelbaar retour.

Er is dus hoop dat hij aankomt bij de juiste persoon.

Tot nader.

Clara Johannah SELLE daughter of Johan Ferdinand SELLE and Katherine BURGERS was born on 5 May 1871 in Lock Haven, Clinton, Pennsylvania, USA. She died on 16 Feb 1937 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA.

 http://phoenixtanneryweb.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/Simpson/10Gen2012Restricted.pdf

Name:Wiliam Sehl

Event Type:Death

Event Date:18 Jul 1869

Event Place:Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Gender:Male

Race:white

Age:0

Birth Year (Estimated):1869

Birth Date:

Birthplace:Philadelphia

Marital Status:Single

Spouse's Name:

Father's Name:John Sehl

Father's Birthplace:

Mother's Name:Kath. Sehl

Mother's Birthplace:

Occupation:

Address:

Residence Place:

Cemetery:West St Burial Ground

Burial Place:Phila., Pa.

Burial Date:20 Jul 1869

Additional Relatives:X

GS Film number:1994572

Digital Folder Number:004010093

Image Number:00602

Reference ID:Item1 P653

Citing this Record:

"Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City

Death Certificates, 1803-1915,"

index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J6MF-P3R : accessed 20 Oct 2014),

Kath. Sehl in entry for Wiliam Sehl, 18 Jul 1869; citing Item1 P653, Department of Records; FHL microfilm 1994572.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6MF-P3R

Name:William Sells

Event Type:Death

Event Date:04 Jul 1858

Event Place:Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Gender:Male

Race:

Age:3

Birth Year (Estimated):1855

Birth Date:

Birthplace:

Marital Status:

Spouse's Name:

Father's Name:John Sells

Father's Birthplace:

Mother's Name:Catharine Sells

Mother's Birthplace:

Occupation:

Address:

Residence Place:

Cemetery:Mechanics

Burial Place:

Burial Date:About 10 Jul 1858

Additional Relatives:

GS Film number:1976846

Digital Folder Number:004009902

Image Number:00261

Reference ID:Item 2 Reg 283 & 286

Citing this Record:

"Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates,

1803-1915," index and images, <i>

FamilySearch</i> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK3K-RPT : accessed 20 Oct 2014), Catharine Sells

in entry for William Sells,

04 Jul 1858; citing Item 2 Reg 283 & 286, Department of Records; FHL microfilm 1976846.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JK3K-RPT

Jay Hood SIMPSON and Clara Johannah SELLE

were married on 26 Nov 1891 in New York, New York, New York, USA.

They had the following children:

48. i. James Adam Simpson was born on 08 Sep 1892 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. He married Beatrice Edna Wright on 07 Nov 1924 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. He died on 26 Apr 1971 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA.

ii. Carroll Ferdinand Simpson was born on 15 Mar 1894 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. He died on 30 Oct 1965 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. 49.

iii. Kathryn Cecilia Simpson was born on 14 Nov 1896 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. She married Daniel Franklin Ennist on 01 Jun 1921 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. She died on 14 Sep 1981 in Waterbury, New Haven, Connecticut, USA

. iv. Minnie Blanche Simpson was born on 25 Feb 1900 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. She married James J. Reilly on 16 Aug 1944. She died on 25 Jun 1983 in Kingston, Ulster, New York, USA.

v. Anna Jane Simpson was born on 18 Apr 1902 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. She married John Patrick Daley on 19 Jun 1950 in Syracuse, Onondaga, New York, USA. She died on 02 Nov 1992 in Syracuse, Onondaga, New York, USA. 50.

vi. Augustus Jay SIMPSON was born on 27 May 1904 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. He married Ruth Muriel JANSEN on 21 Jun 1947 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. He died on 01 Sep 1994 in Kingston, Ulster, New York, USA.

vii. Kenneth Francis Simpson was born on 08 Apr 1906 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. He died on 26 May 1906 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. 51.

viii. Claire Magdeline Simpson was born on 07 Mar 1913 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. She married William J. Delaney on 25 Nov 1937 in Phoenicia, Ulster, New York, USA. She died on 01 Dec 1980 in Kingston, Ulster, New York, USA. 

http://phoenixtanneryweb.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/Simpson/10Gen2012Restricted.pdf

 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MP1Y-9Y4

Name:Clara J Simpson

Titles and Terms:

Event Type:Census

Event Year:1910

Event Place:Shandaken, Ulster, New York, United States

District:170

Gender:Female

Age:39

Marital Status:Married

Race:White

Race (Original):White

Relationship to Head of Household:Wife

Relationship to Head of Household (Original):Wife

Birth Year (Estimated):1871

Birthplace:Pennsylvania

Immigration Year:

Father's Birthplace:Germany

Mother's Birthplace:Holland

Sheet Number and Letter:3A

Household ID:35

Line Number:

Affiliate Name:The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)

Affiliate Publication Number:M1283

GS Film number:1375098

Digital Folder Number:004449180

Image Number:01263

HouseholdRoleGenderAgeBirthplace

Jay H SimpsonHeadM49New York

Clara J SimpsonWifeF39Pennsylvania

James A SimpsonSonM17New York

Carroll F SimpsonSonM16New York

Katheryn C SimpsonDaughterF13New York

Minnie B SimpsonDaughterF10New York

Anna J SimpsonDaughterF7New York

Augustus J SimpsonSonM5New York

Nathan KessleHired manM60New York

Citing this Record:

"United States Census, 1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MP1Y-9Y4 : accessed 20 Oct 2014), Clara J Simpson in household of Jay H Simpson, Shandaken, Ulster, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 170, sheet 3A, family 35, NARA microfilm publication T624, FHL microfilm 1375098.

Name:Mary Sell

Event Type:Death

Event Date:20 Jun 1864

Event Place:Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Gender:Female

Race:White

Age:15

Birth Year (Estimated):1849

Birth Date:

Birthplace:Philadelphia

Marital Status:Single

Spouse's Name:

Father's Name:John H. Sell

Father's Birthplace:

Mother's Name:Catharina Sell

Mother's Birthplace:

Occupation:

Address:

Residence Place:

Cemetery:A. M. Cemetery

Burial Place:

Burial Date:21 Jun 1864

Additional Relatives:

GS Film number:1986472

Digital Folder Number:004010007

Image Number:00792

Reference ID:

Citing this Record:

"Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J6PG-2YP : accessed 20 Oct 2014), Catharina Sell in entry for Mary Sell, 20 Jun 1864; citing , Department of Records; FHL microfilm 1986472.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHQG-JVW

De kinderen hun namen twijfel

Name:Frederick Sell

Titles and Terms:

Event Type:Census

Event Year:1930

Event Place:South Whitehall, Lehigh, Pennsylvania, United States

District:0083

Gender:Male

Age:7

Marital Status:Single

Race:White

Race (Original):White

Relationship to Head of Household:Son

Relationship to Head of Household (Original):Son

Birth Year (Estimated):1923

Birthplace:Pennsylvania

Immigration Year:

Father's Birthplace:Pennsylvania

Mother's Birthplace:Pennsylvania

Sheet Number and Letter:16B

Household ID:386

Line Number:81

Affiliate Name:The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)

Affiliate Publication Number:T626

Affiliate Film Number:2065

GS Film number:2341799

Digital Folder Number:004639396

Image Number:00634

HouseholdRoleGenderAgeBirthplace

John Sell                   Hea dM35 Pennsylvania

Katie Sell                   Wife F37 Pennsylvania

Frederick Sell             Son M7  Pennsylvania

Le Roy Sel                 lSon M6  Pennsylvania

Robert Sell                 Son M4  Pennsylvania

Sterling Sell               SonM0Pennsylvania

Citing this Record:

"United States Census, 1930," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHQG-JVW : accessed 20 Oct 2014), Frederick Sell in household of John Sell, South Whitehall, Lehigh, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 0083, sheet 16B, family 386, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 2065.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VKZ5-4KS

Name:Christ Sehl

Event Type:Death

Event Date:14 Mar 1868

Event Place:Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Gender:Male

Race:W

Age:0

Birth Year (Estimated):1868

Birth Date:

Birthplace:Philadelphia, Phil. Co., PA

Marital Status:Single

Spouse's Name:

Father's Name:John Sehl

Father's Birthplace:

Mother's Name:Catherine Sehl

Mother's Birthplace:

Occupation:

Address:2044 N. 4th St.

Residence Place:Philadelphia, Phil. Co., PA

Cemetery:

Burial Place:

Burial Date:16 Mar 1868

Additional Relatives:

GS Film number:1003695

Digital Folder Number:004047758

Image Number:00086

Reference ID:v 1 p 82

Citing this Record:

"Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VKZ5-4KS : accessed 20 Oct 2014), Catherine Sehl in entry for Christ Sehl, 14 Mar 1868; citing v 1 p 82, Department of Records; FHL microfilm 1003695.

Deze is twijfelachtig i.v.m. vernoemingen  er is nog een echt paar Catharina enJohn Sell Selle Sehl

de komen uit Duitsland

Name:Harry D. Brey

Titles and Terms:

Event Type:Marriage

Event Date:10 May 1902

Event Place:, Montgomery, Pennsylvania, United States

Age:20

Birth Year (Estimated):1882

Father's Name:James S. Brey

Father's Titles and Terms:

Mother's Name:Annie Brey

Mother's Titles and Terms:

Spouse's Name:Sophia S. Sell

Spouse's Titles and Terms:

Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):1881

Spouse's Father's Name:John Sell

Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:

Spouse's Mother's Name:Sell

Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:

Reference ID:12059 1/2

GS Film Number:927233

Digital Folder Number:004265167

Image Number:00040

Name:Harry D. Brey

Titles and Terms:

Event Type:Marriage

Event Date:10 May 1902

Event Place:, Montgomery, Pennsylvania, United States

Age:20

Birth Year (Estimated):1882

Father's Name:James S. Brey

Father's Titles and Terms:

Mother's Name:Annie Brey

Mother's Titles and Terms:

Spouse's Name:Sophia S. Sell

Spouse's Titles and Terms:

Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):1881

Spouse's Father's Name:John Sell

Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:

Spouse's Mother's Name:Sell

Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:

Reference ID:12059 1/2

GS Film Number:927233

Digital Folder Number:004265167

Image Number:00040

Citing this Record:

"Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VF9S-KTR : accessed 20 Oct 2014), Sell in entry for Harry D. Brey and Sophia S. Sell, 10 May 1902; citing , Montgomery, Pennsylvania, United States; FHL microfilm 927233.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF9S-KTR

Helaas nog geen huwelijk gevonden

Katherine Burgers

Ik ben helaas geen lid van Ancestry..

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pubmembertrees&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db&gsln=burgers&uidh=000&mssns0=selle

Beste allemaal,

Ik heb contact gehad met de vragensteller op het Amerikanse forum.

Helaas had hij ook geen overlijdensdatum en -plaats van Catharina van Buuren.

Over de vijf kinderen heb ik alleen wat aanvullingen m.b.t. Catharina (zijn overgrootmoeder) gekregen.

De bekende info is nu als volgt:

1. Margaretha Borgers, geboren op 13-04-1831 te Duiven en overleden te ? op 29-02 1866;

2. Catharina Wilhelmina (Katherine, Katie) Borgers (Burgers), geboren op 01-06-1833 te Duiven en overleden te Renovo (Clinton county, PA, USA) op 25-03-1879. Trouwt te ? vóór 1868 met Johan(n) Ferdinand (John) Selle (Sehl, Sells), geboren op 17-08-1838 te Schliprüthen (NRW, D) als zoon van Johan(n) Christoph(er) Selle en Maria Margaretha Crammer (Krommer). Ferdinand is overleden te Lock Haven (PA, USA) op 14-12-1872;

3. Gerardus Everhardus Borgers, geboren op 07-02-1835 te Duiven en overleden te ? op ?;

4. Hendrikka (Hannah) Borgers (Burgers), geboren op 16-02-1837 te Duiven en overleden te Philadelphia (USA) 14-08-1905 (bron: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=130011780);

5. Henricus Borgers, geboren op 08-10-1838 te Duiven en overleden te ? op ?;

6. Anna Borgers, geboren op 31-03-1840 te Duiven en aldaar overleden op 10-05-1844.

Name:Johann Ferdinand Selle Or Dave

Geschlecht:Male

Taufdatum:19 Aug 1838

Taufort:Schliprüthen, Westfalen, Preußen, Germany

Geburtsdatum:17 Aug 1838

Geburtsort:

Sterbedatum:

Hinweis zum Namen:

Rasse:

Name des Vaters:Johannes Selle Or Dave

Geburtsort des Vaters:

Alter des Vaters:

Name der Mutter:Maria Margaretha Craemer

Geburtsort der Mutter:

Alter der Mutter:

Satznummer des Indexierungsprojekts:C97751-2

Ursprungssystem:Germany-EASy

GS-Filmnummer:995704

Referenznummer:

Citing this Record:

"Deutschland, Geburten und Taufen 1558-1898," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NG6X-71M : accessed 22 Oct 2014), Johann Ferdinand Selle Or Dave, 19 Aug 1838; citing ; FHL microfilm 995704.

Meer

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ajohan~%20%2Bsurname%3Asehl~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1838-1838~%20%2Bdeath_place%3Apa~%20%2Bdeath_year%3A1876-1876~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Akatherina~%20%2Bspouse_surname%3Asehl~

 Wat ik in dit lange verhaal nog niet heb gezien is de aankomst in feb 1855:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-16948-57129-42?cc=1849782

Mijn veronderstellingen (vooral omdat de leeftijden op de lijst niet helemaal correct zijn):

Het is duidelijk dat de volgende 3 op de lijst staan: Margaretha (“Grietje”), Catharina (“Kate”), Gerrardus,  

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Verder is er een female “Hartz” of “Haits”. Je zou dus denken dat dit Hendrika moet zijn, maar waar is Henricus dan gebleven?

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Dan is er een Johannes,”currier” . Mogelijk is dit halfbroer Joannes Burgers geb ca jan 1816. Deze is in 1842 met Catharina Matijssen geb ca 1798 getrouwd (ie een tweede Catharina van ongeveer dezelfde leeftijd als Catharina van Buuren geb ca 1799)

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En uiteindelijk is er inderdaad een Catharina die aan boord is overleden. Maar welke Catharina , want voor Catharina Matijssen heb ik ook nog geen overlijden kunnen vinden??

In de 1870 census zijn er een John en Catharine, maar ook hier weet ik niet of Catharine stiefmoeder of echtgenote is (en ook niet of dit de juiste familie is):

Name:  Catharine Burgers

Gender:  Female

Age:  72

Race:  White

Race (Original):  W

Birth Year (Estimated):  1797-1798

Birthplace:  Holland

Page Number:  1

Household  Role  Gender  Age  Birthplace

John Burgers   M  51  Holland

Catharine Burgers   F  72  Holland

Andrew Dodd   M  39  Hungary

Mary Dodd   F  42  Bohemia

Mary Dodd   F  12  Pennsylvania

John Dodd   M  10  Pennsylvania

Andy Dodd   M  7  Pennsylvania

Frank Dodd   M  4  Pennsylvania

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11875-112280-67?cc=1438024

Sylvia

Een mogelijkheid voor Gerardus:

George BURGERS b FEB 1835 in Holland/Germany, d 27 JAN 1901 in Renovo, Clinton, PA, begr Drury's Run, PA

Occ: brewer (1870), hotelkeeper (1880), Laborer (1900)

Misschien deze:

http://www.oldbreweries.com/breweries-by-state/pennsylvania/renovo-pa-2-breweries/george-burgess-brewery-pa-730-1/

en: http://ottospubandbrewery.com/about/beer-history/

Xca 1867 met Louisa HOFFMAN(N) geb Jun 1836, waarschijnlijk ovl tussen 1900 census en 1910 census

kinderen:

George BURGERS b abt 1868, waarschijnlijk ovl voor 1880 census

Frederick F. BURGERS\BURGESS b: 28 JAN 1870 in Renovo, Clinton, PA, d 9 JUL 1942 St. Marys, PA

Mary A. BURGERS b: APR 1871 in Revovo, Clinton, PA, d after 1920 census

Lillian K./Catherine BURGERS b: MAY 1872(?) in Renovo, Clinton, PA, ovl na 1940 census en voor oct 1946

Louise Magdalene BURGERS b: JAN 1874 in Renovo, Clinton, PA, d 4 APR 1927 in Washington, DC

Joseph Francis H. BURGERS b: FEB 1877 in Renovo, Clinton,PA, d 19 May 1941 Renovo, Clinton, PA

Frances BURGERS (female) b ca 1878, mogelijk ovl voor 1900 census

Hoi Sylvia,volgens mij de juiste persoon.

Goed gevonden!!!

Was niet op de naam George gekomen.

De vernoemingen zien er goed uit.

Groetjes

Met dank aan Silvia

Joseph Francis Burgers

United States World War I Draft Registration Cards

Partner-Veröffentlichungsnummer: M1509 , Partner-Veröffentlichungstitel: World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards , GS-Filmnummer: 1877880 , Digitale Ordnernummer: 005266953 , Aufnahmenummer:02194

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-26615-13287-73?cc=1968530

Name:Mary A Burgers

Titles and Terms:

Event Type:Census

Event Year:1920

Event Place:Renovo, Clinton, Pennsylvania, United States

District:25

Gender:Female

Age:45

Marital Status:Single

Race:White

Race (Original):White

Can Read:Yes

Can Write:Yes

Relationship to Head of Household:Sister

Relationship to Head of Household (Original):Sister

Own or Rent:

Birth Year (Estimated):1875

Birthplace:Pennsylvania

Immigration Year:

Father's Birthplace:Holland

Mother's Birthplace:Pennsylvania

Sheet Number and Letter:7B

Household ID:156

Line Number:77

Affiliate Name:The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)

Affiliate Publication Number:T625

GS Film number:1821554

Digital Folder Number:004385025

Image Number:00676

HouseholdRoleGenderAgeBirthplace

Joseph F BurgersHeadM42Pennsylvania

Mary A BurgersSisterF45Pennsylvania

Walter MyersLodgerM37Pennsylvania

Harry WheelerLodgerM25Pennsylvania

James ConnolyLodgerM27Pennsylvania

Milton SwartzLodgerM33Pennsylvania

Citing this Record:

"United States Census, 1920," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M61J-JK1 : accessed 08 Nov 2014), Mary A Burgers in household of Joseph F Burgers, Renovo, Clinton, Pennsylvania, United States; citing sheet 7B, family 156, NARA microfilm publication T625, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 1821554.