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Can anybody tell me whether there is a link with the family Doldersum in Drenthe and the Family Doldersum in Friesland? Did Klaas Jans Doldersum(He is the earliest I can find in Friesland) come from Drenthe, or was he born in Friesland? Has anyone any information regarding this family. The earliest person I have is named Kaal(Also known as Doldersum)from Hoogeveen, Drenthe.I'll appreciate anything you can tell me. John Prins

John Prins

Hi,

I need more information to help you out. What data do you have? Where? etc. I found this baptisms, you probably have them.


Schoterland, dopen, doopjaar 1732
Dopeling: Jan
Gedoopt op 27 april 1732 in Oudehorne
Kind van Claas Jans en Aaltje Jans Hoff

Gestandaardiseerde namen (voornaam en patroniem):
Dopeling : JAN of JANKE
Vader : KLAAS JANS
Moeder : AALTJE JANS

Bron:
Collectie Doop-, Trouw-, Begraaf- en Lidmaatboeken (DTBL)
Herv. gem. Hoornsterzwaag, Jubbega, Schurega en Oude- en
Nieuwehorne, doop 1728-1811
Inventarisnr. : 601
Op microfiche beschikbaar op studiezaal Tresoar

Wijzigingsdatum: 19-12-2006

Schoterland, dopen, doopjaar 1734
Dopeling: Aaldert
Gedoopt op 15 augustus 1734 in Oudehorne
Zoon van Claas Jans Doldersum en Aaltje Jans

Gestandaardiseerde namen (voornaam en patroniem):
Dopeling : ALLERT
Vader : KLAAS JANS
Moeder : AALTJE JANS

Bron:
Collectie Doop-, Trouw-, Begraaf- en Lidmaatboeken (DTBL)
Herv. gem. Hoornsterzwaag, Jubbega, Schurega en Oude- en
Nieuwehorne, doop 1728-1811
Inventarisnr. : 601
Op microfiche beschikbaar op studiezaal Tresoar

Wijzigingsdatum: 19-12-2006

zwenny

One remark:

There is a little town just at the drenthe side of the border that is called Doldersum (Google maps). that may explain the name. When someone came from Doldersum, the last name could easily be Doldersum. That how it worked then. So it is not necessary that all Doldersums are related to each other.

I found a wedding, but unfortunately is not the right wife first name: in which that town is mentioned.

Vledder, doop-, trouw-, overlijdens- en kerkenraadboek (1679-1790; DTB 149), 20 april 1727, pagina 177
Proclamatiedatum: 20-04-1727.
Bruidegom: Claas Jans, woonplaats: Wapse.
Bruid: Claasje Jans, woonplaats: Doldersum.
NB: huwelijksdatum niet bekend.

Zwenny

Thank you for your information.I think you have provided me with Klaas Jans Doldersum's father and Mother and sibling. I include what I have already in this report of the following three generations. I'll check out the information you have provided with many thanks. If you have more I would love to receive it. My Doldersum file can be found on GenaNet and on GenCircles. Thanks again . John

First Generation
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1. Klaas Jans DOLDERSUM. Born in 1773. Klaas Jans died in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands on 24 Mar 1846, he was 73.

On 3 Nov 1799 when Klaas Jans was 26, he married Eeltjen WOLTERS, daughter of Wolter HARMSEN %26 Eltje JACOBS, in Makkinga, Friesland, Netherlands. Born on 6 Apr 1766 in Makkinga, Friesland, Netherlands.

They had the following children:
2 i. Aefjen Klazes (1801-1858)
3 ii. Eeltjen Klazes (1810-1876)
4 iii. Klaassien Klaassen (1807-1888)
5 iv. Hendrik Klazes (1805-1886)


Second Generation
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2. Aefjen Klazes DOLDERSUM. Born on 12 Mar 1801 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands(Makkinga). Aefjen Klazes died in Opsterland, Friesland, Netherlands on 7 Oct 1858, she was 57.

On 29 May 1829 when Aefjen Klazes was 28, she married Tjeerd Annes LINGSMA, in Lippenhuizen, Friesland, Netherlands(Opsterland). Born abt 1800.

They had the following children:
i. Klaaske Tjeerds. Born on 6 Sep 1838 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands. Klaaske Tjeerds died in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands on 26 Oct 1845, she was 7.

ii. Anne. Born on 4 Mar 1831 in Opsterland, Friesland, Netherlands.

iii. Elske Tjeerds. Born on 31 Oct 1833 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands.

iv. Sytske Tjeerds. Born on 30 Mar 1836 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands.

v. Immigjen Tjeerds. Born on 23 Jun 1842 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands.

vi. Klaas. Born on 13 Jul 1846 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands.


3. Eeltjen Klazes DOLDERSUM. Born in 1810 in Oldeberkoop, Friesland, Netherlands. Eeltjen Klazes died in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 29 Mar 1876, she was 66.

On 20 Nov 1831 when Eeltjen Klazes was 21, she married Johannes Klaas HOFSTRA, son of Klaas Johannes HOFSTRA %26 Tettje Johannes FRANKE, in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Born abt 1807 in Oldeberkoop, Friesland, Netherlands. Johannes Klaas died in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 8 Jan 1894, he was 87.

They had the following children:
i. Klaas Johannes. Born in 1833 in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Klaas Johannes died in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 21 Dec 1916, he was 83.

Klaas Johannes married Gatske Roelofs POSTMA.

ii. Jan Johannes. Born in 1835 in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Jan Johannes died in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 11 May 1918, he was 83.

Jan Johannes married Farduw Tomas VAN DER LEY.

iii. Trijntje. Born in 1836 in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Trijntje died in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 29 Sep 1839, she was 3.

iv. Engbert Johannes. Born in 1840 in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Engbert Johannes died in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 26 Jan 1906, he was 66.

Engbert Johannes married Geertjen Hendriks OOSTERLOO.

v. Kornelis Johannes. Born in 1844 in Nijerberkoop, Friesland, Netherlands. Kornelis Johannes died in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 6 Jan 1927, he was 83.

On 22 Apr 1881 when Kornelis Johannes was 37, he married Martjen Lammerts BROUWER, daughter of Lammert Remmelts BROUWER %26 Vrouwkje Sybrands ZWAAGSTRA, in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Born on 20 Feb 1849 in Donkerbroek, Friesland, Netherlands. Martjen Lammerts died in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 15 Jan 1927, she was 77.

vi. Child. Born on 22 Feb 1846 in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Child died on 22 Feb 1846 in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands.


4. Klaassien Klaassen DOLDERSUM. Born on 9 Nov 1807 in Hornsterwaag,Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands. Klaassien Klaassen died in Diever, Drenthe, Netherlands on 18 Jun 1888, she was 80.

On 17 Oct 1835 when Klaassien Klaassen was 27, she married Pieter Jans VOS, in Vledder, Drenthe, Netherlands. Born on 10 Aug 1807 in Vledder, Drenthe, Netherlands. Pieter Jans died in Wapse, Diever, Drenthe, Netherlands on 11 May 1867, he was 59.

They had one child:
i. Hendrik Pieters. Born on 21 Oct 1846 in Vledder, Drenthe, Netherlands. Hendrik Pieters died in Hooghalen, Drenthe, Netherlands(Beilen) on 25 Dec 1904, he was 58.

On 14 May 1887 when Hendrik Pieters was 40, he married Grietje BULT, daughter of Geert Jans BULT %26 Albertje Oost TROMPETTER, in Havelte, Drenthe, Netherlands. Born on 10 Feb 1863 in Vledder, Drenthe, Netherlands. Grietje died in Assen, Drenthe, Netherlands on 10 Jul 1932, she was 69.


5. Hendrik Klazes DOLDERSUM. Born in 1805 in Katlyk, Friesland, Netherlands. Hendrik Klazes died in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands on 5 Apr 1886, he was 81.

On 21 Jun 1835 when Hendrik Klazes was 30, he married Afke Jans KERKHHOF, in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands(Katlijk). Born abt 1806. Afke Jans died in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands on 29 Jan 1876, she was 70.

They had the following children:
6 i. Klaas Hendriks (1835-1916)
ii. Hiltje Hendriks. Born on 13 May 1837 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands. Hiltje Hendriks died in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands on 13 Jul 1914, she was 77.

iii. Jan Hendriks. Born on 12 Oct 1839 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands. Jan Hendriks died in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands on 9 Jul 1928, he was 88.

iv. Engbert Hendriks. Born on 24 Jul 1841 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands. Engbert Hendriks died in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands on 20 May 1928, he was 86.

v. Tjibbe. Born on 6 Jan 1845 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands.

vi. Wolter. Born on 24 Jul 1849 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands. Wolter died in Heerenveen, Friesland, Netherlands on 28 Dec 1942, he was 93.



Third Generation
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6. Klaas Hendriks DOLDERSUM. Born on 24 Sep 1835 in Schoterland, Friesland, Netherlands. Klaas Hendriks died in Weststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 23 Sep 1916, he was 80.

On 13 May 1870 when Klaas Hendriks was 34, he first married Eltje Tjeerds DRAGTSMA, daughter of Tjeerd Martens DRAGTSMA %26 Grietjen Gerbens BOSCH, in Ooststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Born on 25 May 1843 in Weststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Eltje Tjeerds died in Weststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands on 8 Feb 1933, she was 89.

They had the following children:
i. Aafje (1872-)
ii. Hendrik Klaas (1873-)
iii. Tjeerd (1877-)
iv. Gerrit (1881-1882)

On 29 Nov 1884 when Klaas Hendriks was 49, he second married Maartje BEUN, daughter of Casper BEUN %26 Maria Cornelia LATOUR, in Weststellingswerf, Friesland, Netherlands. Born on 21 Aug 1855 in Noordwolde, Weststellingwerf, Friesland, Netherlands.

They had the following children:
i. Maria Cornelia (1885-)
ii. Hiltje (1888-)

John Prins

Ok, a bit risky, but it seem to work, only one problem. So check all you can, what I propose is just an option.

I think klaas could be the son of the following:

Schoterland, huwelijken 1764
Vermelding: Bevestiging huwelijk op 15 januari 1764 in
Hoornsterzwaag
Man : Jan Clazes afkomstig van Hoornsterzwaag
Vrouw : Aafke Engberts afkomstig van Hoornsterzwaag
Opmerking : met consent van de wederzijdse ouders

Gestandaardiseerde namen: JAN KLASES en AAFKE EGBERTS

Bron:
Collectie Doop-, Trouw-, Begraaf- en Lidmatenboeken(DTBL)
Trouwregister Hervormde gemeente Hoornsterzwaag Jubbega
Schurega Oudehorne Nieuwehorne 1729-1811
Inventarisnr.: 601
Op microfiche beschikbaar op de studiezaal van Tresoar

His eldest daughter is clled Aafje (the same as Aafke). So ok.

THese are the children: aaltje, jantje, klaas (yours!,I hope) and Engbert.

Schoterland, dopen, geboortejaar 1765, doopjaar 1765
Dopeling: Aaltjen
Geboren op 20 juli 1765
Gedoopt op 4 augustus 1765 in Oudehorne
Dochter van Jan Klasen en Aafjen Engbers

Gestandaardiseerde namen (voornaam en patroniem):
Dopeling : AALTJE
Vader : JAN KLASES
Moeder : AAFKE EGBERTS

Bron:
Collectie Doop-, Trouw-, Begraaf- en Lidmaatboeken (DTBL)
Herv. gem. Hoornsterzwaag, Jubbega, Schurega en Oude- en
Nieuwehorne, doop 1728-1811
Inventarisnr. : 601
Op microfiche beschikbaar op studiezaal Tresoar

Wijzigingsdatum: 19-12-2006
Schoterland, dopen, geboortejaar 1768, doopjaar 1768
Dopeling: Jantjen
Geboren op 11 oktober 1768
Gedoopt op 6 november 1768 in Oudehorne
Kind van Jan Klasen Hoppe en Aafjen Engbers

Gestandaardiseerde namen (voornaam en patroniem):
Dopeling : JENTJE of JANKE
Vader : JAN KLASES
Moeder : AAFKE EGBERTS

Bron:
Collectie Doop-, Trouw-, Begraaf- en Lidmaatboeken (DTBL)
Herv. gem. Hoornsterzwaag, Jubbega, Schurega en Oude- en
Nieuwehorne, doop 1728-1811
Inventarisnr. : 601
Op microfiche beschikbaar op studiezaal Tresoar

Wijzigingsdatum: 19-12-2006
Schoterland, dopen, geboortejaar 1772, doopjaar 1772
Dopeling: Klaas
Geboren op 19 mei 1772 in Hoornsterzwaag
Gedoopt op 31 mei 1772 in Oudehorne
Zoon van Jan Klasen en Aafjen Engbers

Gestandaardiseerde namen (voornaam en patroniem):
Dopeling : KLAAS
Vader : JAN KLASES
Moeder : AAFKE EGBERTS

Bron:
Collectie Doop-, Trouw-, Begraaf- en Lidmaatboeken (DTBL)
Herv. gem. Hoornsterzwaag, Jubbega, Schurega en Oude- en
Nieuwehorne, doop 1728-1811
Inventarisnr. : 601
Op microfiche beschikbaar op studiezaal Tresoar

Wijzigingsdatum: 19-12-2006
Schoterland, dopen, geboortejaar 1775, doopjaar 1775
Dopeling: Engbert
Geboren op 11 februari 1775 in Hoornsterzwaag
Gedoopt op 12 maart 1775 in Oudehorne
Zoon van Jan Klasen en Aafjen Engbers

Gestandaardiseerde namen (voornaam en patroniem):
Dopeling : EGBERT
Vader : JAN KLASES
Moeder : AAFKE EGBERTS

Bron:
Collectie Doop-, Trouw-, Begraaf- en Lidmaatboeken (DTBL)
Herv. gem. Hoornsterzwaag, Jubbega, Schurega en Oude- en
Nieuwehorne, doop 1728-1811
Inventarisnr. : 601
Op microfiche beschikbaar op studiezaal Tresoar

Wijzigingsdatum: 19-12-2006

But there is one problem: Jan klases is called Hoppe in one baptism, and not Doldersum. Pity, but still it is a possibility.

The posts i did before could be the parens of Jan: Baptized in 1732, worked, and the Jan Klases and Aafje called the first daughter Aaltje. So it is risky, but may be true....

Just a path to follow and work out with people with better understanding than I have :P.

Zwenny

Thanks Again. You have given me a lot of information.I know about the place Doldersum on the border of Drenthe and Friesland. It is possible that the name originated there. The first one I have in Drenthe was named Kaal with the notation (also known as Doldersum) and his sons carried the name Doldersum from then on. I thought maybe one of the sons went to Friesland, but I may be mistaken. Anyway I have some investigating to do. I hope to be in touch again later when I have thought things over.It was very nice of you to go to this much trouble to send your data and I'm truly gratefull. Greetings from Newmarket, Canada. Just North of Toronto.John

John Prins

I did not copy those data from my file, I tried to find them in www.tresoar.nl and www.drenlias.nl.

you mentioned a doldersum from drenthe. What name exactly and what period and where? I saw only Friesland in your data here.

Then about the addition of Hoppe in one of the baptisms of Jan Klases. It could be a mistake in reading and is was Hoff, like the last name of his mother. I dont know if that is found in friesland, sometimes being called by mothers last name. In other regions you will find it.

zwenny

Thank You Zwenny
I'm giving you the web site where my Doldersum- Schonewille file is located.
http://www.gencircles.com/users/grasshopper1/13
You wil find tons of Doldersums there. My wife is a Doldersum from Beilen and her mother was a Schonewille from Tiendeveen.That's why I'm doing research in those names and any that may be related by marriage. John

John Prins

Lambert Doldersum, geboren op 22-04-1893 in Hoogeveen (noord) en overleden op 09-09-1978 te Hoogeveen, trouwde op 24-02-1917 te Hoogeveen met Aaltje Hulst, *19-05-1893
Kinderen:
Jantje *14-12-1917 X Hendrik Dijkman
Aaltje *23-09-1923 X Gerrit Eenhuizen
Annie * 25-08-1926 X Roelof Vogelzang

H.Hulst

Bedankt voor Uw bericht, Ik heb de nodige correcties en additions aangemaakt.Als ik U kan helpen met informatie dan hoor ik dat wel. Beste wensen John Prins

John Prins

There is a Doldersum hyves, maybe you can find more information there.

http://doldersum1.hyves.nl/

Greetz from Zwartemeer Drenthe

Bert Doldersum

Ik ben een kleinzoon van Annie en Roelof Vogelzang

Roelof Vogelzang


Etstoel 25-6-1709:

Verweerder: Femmegien Martens, weduwe van Jan Lamberts Kaal
Onderwerp: panding
Inhoud: 20-17-0 wegens geleverde waren aan Kruygers Jante
Andere namen: schulte van Hoogeveen

Eppe




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