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After studying the same document some more:

Land folio 20/21 "Leijderdorp 3 morgen lants"

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1523 leased by Wouter Heijndricxz.
1528 leased by Maritgen Wouter Heijnricxz. widow
1533 leased by Claes Arentsz.
....
1565 leased by Wouter Claes Brammer

Land folio 321/322 "Prebende Marie et Nicolai.  -  dese 7 hont lants in Leijderdorp"

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1522 leased by Wouter Henricxz.
1527 leased by Maritgen Wouter Henricxz. weduwe.
1532 leased by Marijtgen mit haer man (Marijtgen WITH HER HUSBAND)
1537 leased by Claes Arentsz. heeft weder ingehuijrt ( Claes Arentsz has leased AGAIN - he must be that HUSBAND)
....
1567 leased by Marritgen Bouwensdr. weduwe van Claes Arentsz. Braemer

Meaning: 

• Wouter Hendricks was married with Maritgen Bouwensdr.
• Wouter died between 1523 and 1527
• Maritgen remarried Claes Arentsz Brammer between 1528 and 1532
• Wouter Claes Brammer - their son - is named after Maritgens previous husband

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Different topic - Hendrick Jan Pietersz Keijser (son of Jan Pietersz and (Mar)Griet)  and Dieuwertje Claes (hyp. daughter of Claes Arents Brammer and Maritge Bouwendr)  had these children. See also Oud Rechterlijk Archief Hazerswoude 560. 9-9-1571, 561. 27-12-1571 and fol. 50v. 10-12-1577

Grietje Hendriksz.         (fathers mother)
Marijtje Hendricksdr.     (mothers mother)
Claes Hendricksz          (mothers father)
Jan Hendricksz             (fathers father)

Joris Heijndricksz
Pieter Hendricksz (in fact 2 Pieters)
Trijntje Hendricksdr
Geertje Hendricksdr
Dirckje Hendricksdr
Barbara Hendricksdr
Cornelis Hendricksz

These names are not very distinct, but at least all 4 (supposed) grandparents are named, making the hypothesis stick for now. For the rest it hinges a lot on Hendrick Jan Pietersz Keijser leasing a house to Aernt (Arent) Claes Brammers (supposedly his brother in law) which is not very strong of course, but circumstancials like for instance Hendrik Jansz being the uncle to the children of Maritgen Claes are supporting this a bit. I think it is quite plausibel.

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KOHIER VAN DE 10° PENNING VAN 1543 LEIDERDORP (Taxation register)

Folio 25 verso

"Claes Aerntsz. bruijct mit zijn hofstede 36 morghen huijerlants om 150 gulden siaers. Compt voor den thienden penninck 15 £. Facit 7 £ 10 st., facit 7 £ 10 st. " (his farm is using 36 'morgen' leased land, taxation accordingly)

But more interesting:

Folio 30 verso

"Alle dese tauxacie ende sommacie mitten verhoghinge is bij ons Dirck Gerijtsz. scout ende Dirck Jansz. ende Claes Aerntsz. ambochtbewaerders van den voirsz. dorpe gedaen nae onse beste wetenscappe, achtervolgende die bevelen vanden Keijserlike Maiesteijts. In oerkonde soe hebben wij Dirck Gerritsz. scout vanden voirsz. dorpe ende Dirck Jansz. elcx onse naem hier onder gescreven ende ick Claes Aernsz. dit onderteijckent mit mijn gewoenliken teijken. Up ten seventhienden dach in Meije anno 1500 vier ende veertich in presencie van onse clerck des voirsz. dorpe diet deur bevels van ons dit mede ondergeteijkent ende dit gescreven heeft, bij ons

Bij mijn Dirck Gherijtsz. scout van Leijderdorp

H. Gogel

Bij mijn Dierc Iansz"

Meaning 2 things:

1. Claes Aerntsz is Ambachtsbewaarder in 1543, which is sort of member of the village council, more importantly the 'polder' council. And in this case also taxation officer.
2. He signed off -not by signing his name- but signing with 'his usual mark' => he could not write. And probably not read.

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Claes Aertsz witness for a land transaction  05-08-1539:

"Nr. 321 folio 156 d.d. 05-08-1539.

Ic Dirck Geritsz. schout inden ambachte van Leijerdorp [.....] buijrluijden ende getuijgen inden voorsz. ambochte Claes Aertsz. ende Pouwels Garbrantsz [...]"

Hi Bart:

A few days ago, you mentioned:

(Oud Rechterlijk Archief Hazerswoude) 629v. 13-7-1572. 

Stelt dat Lijsbeth Woutersdr. bij de Cruysweg hem een jaarlijkse rente van 6 pond hollands schuldig is en dat hij geleend heeft aan Hendrick
Pieterszn. zwager van Pieter Claeszn. een daalder, Barbara de huisvrouw van Jan Willemszn. 31 mots. 

The key will be finding a document that explicitly states Pieter is the son of Claes Arents Brammer and Maritge Bouwendr or as a sibling to the other family members you compiled.

Steve

Something like that is exactly what is lacking to have 100% proof.

Alternatively, what also would be an asset is if we would find a document about the parents of either Claes Arentsz Brammer (his father is called Arent or Aert but that is all we know) or Maritge Bouwendr (fathers name is Bouwen but that's all). A mothers name of 'Dieuwertje' on either side would raise the odds from 'plausible' to 'higly likely' to my opinion 

"Claes Arentsz. (alias) Braemer (died shortly after 1557- before 1565)"

To be more exact, Claes (most likely) died before 1561. See: 10° PENNING VAN LEIDERDORP d.d. 1561, Folio 46v

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"Marijtgen Bouwens weduwe huurt van mijn heer van Drogendijck weduwe 5 morgen ½ hond." (read as Marijtgen Bouwens(dr), widow)

So a document dated between 1557 and 1561 about his legacy would likely reveal his children. Unfortunately, the oldest transcriptions of 'Oud Rechterlijk Archief Leiderdorp' on hogenda.nl is dated 1608.

The same would be true for a document about the legacy of Maritje Bouwendr, but we do not know when she died (after 1567)

Marijtgen possibly moved to Leiden?

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"Protocol van notaris Pieter Adriaensz. Storm te Leiden 1564 – 1568"

"f. 133v d.d. 8-9-1567: Comp. Maritgen Bouwensdr. wonende binnen Leiden met Mourijn Bouwensz. wonende in Leiderdorp haar broeder en gekoren voogd in deze zaak en heeft geconstitueerd Cornelis Brunensz. en Cornelis Aelwijnsz. van Thol. (122) "

Could be her. Living in Leiden, but a brother in Leiderdorp, her guardian (meaning either unmarried or widow)

This document can be found here but is just a 'procuratie' which doesn't tell us a lot I think:

https://www.erfgoedleiden.nl/collecties/archieven/archievenoverzicht/scans/NL-LdnRAL-0506/1.1/start/120/limit/10/highlight/1

@ (mainly) Bart: I never did bother too much about Hendrick Jansz and his children (so many documents with them there in Hazerswoude) and only had a few of them in my database. But now I've entered them all with their partners and look: I am now officially descended from Trijntgen, daughter of Hendrick Jansz (van Leeuwen) and both her husbands. So thanks Bart for putting me on to this.

Another one of interest was Jan Hendricksz, another I already in my database without knowing he was a son of the same Hendrick Jansz. Their daughter Grietgen found her husbands in Noordwijk. The interesting thing for this topic is maybe that he and his sons were called Vergalch. 
We saw that Hendrick Jansz was only once called Van Leeuwen, and one of the Pieters every time Keijser (and his sons as well). The children of Joris Hendricksz were called Van Leeuwen. It appears that one Pieter was specifically named after his great-grandfather Pieter Keijser so where did the names Van Leeuwen and Vergalch came from? Maybe Hendrick was named after his mothers side of the family? 

Another area where we maybe could find something is this: in ONA Leiden 9/91 01-02-1580 there is a statement from a Cornelis Jaconsz Broer from Leiderdorp (who himself isn't relevant) at the request of Marijtgen Jan Aelwijnszdr who was living in Leiden. In the statements are mentioned Claes Aelwijnsz, buurman van Leijderdorp, oom van de requirante and Pieter Henricxsz Keijser en Claes Willemsz beide van de Groenendijk neven van de requirante. 
Claes Aelwijnsz looks to be straightforward, a brother of Marijtgens father, Jan Aelwijnsz. But the other two? Cousin or nephew? In another document regarding the same subject they arementioned as neven en overzulks als voogden so we may presume that Pieter and Claes are cousins, that is from the same generation as Marijtgen. 
Pieter Hendricksz we know as as on of Hendrick Jansz and Dieuwer Claesdr.  For Claes Willemsz we could easily jump to the conclusion that he was Claes Willemsz Keth, but there were more Claes Willemsons. For instance Claes Willemsz, the brother of Willem Willemsz Wetsman, who also had a brother Aelwijn  Willemsz. Claes and Jan Aelwijnsz could have been his sons. But I think there is evidence in another direction.

In ORA Zoeterwoude 185/161v 29-04-1581 Pieter Hendricksz and Claes Willemsz from the Groenendijk appear as cousins, Claes Aelwijnsz as uncle and Gerrit Jansz as brother, all as guardians of Anna Jan Aelwijnszdr from Leiden. Obviously a sister to Marijtgen (Gerrit Jansz also had a sister Neeltgen and there also was a Rusgen Jan Aelwijnszdr in the volkstelling Leiden 1581, living with her sister Annetgen, both from Leiderdorp).
Looking for Jan Aelwijnsz from Leiderdorp I found several references to a  schout by that name, who indeed had a brother Claes Aelwijnsz, and daughters Neeltgen and Marijtgen. Their father was Aelwijn Claesz so if we have the correct Jan Aelwijnsz this rules out Aelwijn Willemsz (Wetsman). Jan Aelwijnsz was married to a Marijtgen Claesdr. So, a strong possibility is that she was a sister to Dieuwer Claesdr, hence their children were first cousins. 
I believe Claes Willemsz Keth was a voorzoon of Maritge Claes weduwe van Jan Woutersz (ORA Hazerswoude 21-12-1567) and Willem Jansz Keth (and already presumed earlier by Bart as a sister to Dieuwer). 

Regards, Frans

Hmm,

I think I have to draw all this schematically to grasp the full meaning of what you are writing, Frans. But for now the bottom line for me is that Dieuwertje Claes and Maritge Claes are sisters. But your exposé seems to point into the direction of 2 Marijtgen Claesdr-s, both sisters of Dieuwertje?

Furthermore, indeed, Keijser / van Leeuwen (and now also Vergalch - sounding a bit sinister to me) The real explanation is missing here; more documents may have to be arranged to figure this one out.

Getting late now, and the brain foggy. Tomorrow another day.

Let's not forget your post from January 25, Bart:

Meaning Jacob Rembrantszn. van Bleyswijck is writing his will, and states that Hendrick Pieterszn. brother in law of Pieter Claeszn has borrowed a 'daalder' ( 1 1/2 guilder) of him. 

In short, Dieuwertje Claes also had a brother named Pieter Claeszn.

Looking at it again. Indeed, the evidence seems towards 2 Maritgen Claesdr's, being sisters of Dieuwertje. Otherwise (if they would be one and the same person) Claes Willemsz (Keth) should have been called (half) brother to either Anna Jan Aelwijnsdr and/or Marijtgen Jan Aelwijnszdr and/or  Gerrit Jansz (same mother).

Complicated. And still no hard evidence (at least I do not see it) to tie them (or Pieter Claesz) to either Wouter - or Arent Claesz (Brammer) which would be proof of Claes Arentsz Brammer and Marijtgen Bouwendr being their parents

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Another small fact that may come handy later on: again 10° PENNING VAN LEIDERDORP d.d. 1561, Folio 48.

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"Morijn Bouwens huurt van de abdisse van Leeuwenhorst 3 morgen." (possibly the brother of Marijtgen Bouwendr)

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Looking at this from a socioeconomic point of view what we hypothetically have is:

• one daughter of an "Ambachtsbewaarder" married to a "Schout"
• another daughter of the same person married to a "Kerkmeester" who also act as arbiter, and is the grandson of a "welgeboren man"

That makes sense.

But the funny thing is that I do not see his sons (and these 2 highly likely ARE his sons) - Wouter Claesz and/or Arent Claesz - stepping up after Claes Arentsz. (alias) Braemer died somewhere close to 1560. His widow is continuing some land lease for a short period, Wouter is doing the same, but both are not continued. And I have not stumbled upon any public functions for either Wouter or Arent.

Statistics. Top 10 richest farmers in Leiderdorp, 10° penning 1543

1. Jacob Dircxz. bruijct die boomgaert chingel van tvoersz. huijs mit 36 morghen lants om 216 gulden siaers. Compt voor den 10° penninck 21 £ 12 st.
2. Maritgen Bouwen Jacobszs. weduwe bruijct mit haer hofstede 43 morgen huijerlandts om 205 gulden siaers. Compt voor den thienden penninck 20 £ 10 st. [ Are Maritgen and her late husband Bouwen Jacobsz the parents of Maritgen Bouwendr? ]
3. Aelwijn Cornelisz. bruijct mit zijn hofstede 50 morghen landts om 200 gulden siaers. Compt voer den thienden penninck 20 £.
4. Claes Vranckensz. bruijct mit zijn hofstede 50 morghen lants daer of 28 morgen eijgen of erfpacht es ende zeven morgen eijgens ende de reste huijerlant, te zamen voor 200 gulden siaers. Compt voor den thienden penninck 20 £.
5. Dirck Gherijtsz. [Schout] bruijct mit zijn hofstede 47 morghen landts om 200 gulden. Compt voor den thienden penninck 20 £.
6. Ewoudt Corstensz. bruijct mit zijn hofstede 32 morghen huijerlandts om 180 gulden siaers ende noch een bon met thienden om 11½ gulden siaers, facit 191½ gulden. Compt voor den thienden penninck 19 £ 3 st.
7. Wouter Meesz. mit zijn hofstede bruijct 42 morghen huijerlants om 168 gulden siaers. Compt voer den thienden penninck 16 £ 16 st.
8. Jacob Claesz. van Veen bruijct mit zijn hofstede 29 morgen landts om 160 gulden. Compt voor den thienden penninck 16 £.
9. Claes Aerntsz. [Ambachtsbewaarder] bruijct mit zijn hofstede 36 morghen huijerlants om 150 gulden siaers. Compt voor den thienden penninck 15 £.
10. Jan Dircxz. bruijct mit zijn hofstede dertich morgen huijerlandts om 150 gulden siaers. Compt voor den 10° penninck 15 £.

And the rich ones that tried to get away cheap:

Willem Aerntsz. bruijct mit zijn hofstede 32 morghen landts om 85 gulden siaers. Compt voor den thienden penninck 8 £ 10 st.
Facit 4 £ 5 st., noch 4 £ 5 st.
Kanttekening: Verhoecht 30 £, facit daer van 3 £. [ Is this Claes Aerntsz brother trying to get away paying only about half of his tax? ]

Heijnrick Sijmonsz. hoffstede mit 18 morghen landts gelt 70 gulden siaers ende heeft noch 12 morgen
landts, waerdich weesende 24 gulden siaers, facit 94 gulden.
Compt voor den 10° penninck 12 £ 8 st.
Facit 4 £ 8 st., facit noch 5 £.
Kanttekening: Verhoecht 25 £, facit daer of 3 £

Anyone care to explain what role Hendrick Pietersz, zwager van Pieter Claesz, plays in all this?  He could either be a son-in-law or brother-in-law of one of the Pieter Claeszonen (I easily count 5 or so of them on ORA Hazerswoude) but who was Hendrick?

As to Jan Hendricksz Vergalch, there seems to have been a Galgpolder in Hazerswoude/Alphen so his name could have been a toponym (Van der Galch), relating to the place where he lived. As such, a name only beginning with him, not his ancestors.

Regards, Frans

You are right about Hendrick Pietersz. Could be short for Hendrik (Jan) Pietersz, but that is a long shot to put it mildly. So lets forget about Pieter Claesz for now, I'll cross him out in the relevant entries

....And - I agree with your earlier suggestion - 'van Leeuwen' could be coming from (Mar)Griet(e), the mother of Hendrick Jan Pietersz. He is the first person that is recorded with that name in this family (only once). But as to why either both names 'van Leeuwen' and 'Keijser' are carried forward with/by different children I cannot explain in detail.

I've seen things like that before, even aliasses for the same person (100% certain) with last names that disappear over a few generations, and other last names that appear for the same persons in the same period. Without having been able to find a proper explanation.

I already had some Brammers, namely Pieter Aertsz (who married a girl from Sassenheim) and his sons Jan and Pieter. Their uncle was Bouwen Aertsz Brammer - so Pieter (from 1556) and Bouwen (from 1557) will be the sons of Arent Claesz Brammer, I presume. Also a Adriaen Claesz Brammer mentioned in Haarlem in 1598 and 1625. He may have nothing to do with the Leiderdorpers.

This doesn't help much, but the interesting thing is that Pieter Aertsz appears a number of times in ORA Sassenheim, the first time in 1588 named Pieter Aertsz Brammer van Thoel, and in a copy of that document Pieter Aertsz van Thol. The other times just as Pieter Aertsz Brammer.
Now that name Van Thol may open a new can of worms....

Groeten, Frans

Hmm,

I've stumbled across this before in this context. Pieter Aertsz Brammer and Bouwen Aertsz Brammer are mentioned as brothers in so many words twice:

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ORA Zoeterwoude 1593-1596: Nr. 286 folio 111 d.d. 25-04-1596.

Very long document about " de verlaten boedel van zaliger Pieter Aertsz. Brammer scheepmaker, in leven gewoond hebbende aan de Hogerijndijk" (abandoned estate of the late Pieter..... shipbuilder, having lived at the Hogerijndijk) and " boedels bevonden is met vele schulden bezwaard" (estate found to be burdened with many debts) [...] at the end: "Broeder van Pieter Aertsz. Brammer is Bouwen Aertsz"

and

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ORA Zoeterwoude 1586-1588: Nr. 28 folio 32 d.d. 10-02-1587.

The house at the 'Hogerijndijk' was bought from Bouwen: "Bouwen Aertsz. van Leiderdorp verklaarde dat hij overlang aan Pieter Aertsz. Brammer zijn broeder, overgedaan had de koop van een huis en erf aan de Hogerijndijk in Zoeterwoude, welk huis en erf hij comparant van Cornelis Roelofsz. scheepmaker gekocht had.

Probability of those 2 being the sons of Arent Claes Brammer is high since one of them is called "Bouwen" => Arents mother is Maritge Bouwendr.

In that context: another record about Wouter (Claesz) Brammers:

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CONVENT REGULIEREN IN LEIDERDORP, 1600

"Wouter Brammers is jaerlicx schuldich 8 st., daer van resteeren de jaeren verschenen Lambertij 1580 ende de naervolgende jaeren 4 st."

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A couple of times mentionned as adjoined "Jan de Brammer". Ancient:

• Nr. 212 folio 87 d.d. 26-07-1455.
• Nr. 213 folio 87v. d.d. 27-07-1455
• Nr. 214 folio 88 d.d. 09-09-1455.

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Van Tol: I've read something somewhere, but have a hard time finding it back....... can of worms open  ;-)

Bouwen Aartsz Brammer Oegstgeest, welgeboren man van 1607-1624 (contrary to his father does have a public function):

https://books.google.nl/books?hl=nl&id=yEOR7tRmPAQC&q=brammer#v=snippet&q=brammer&f=false

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I thought I had read an earlier indication of 'van Tol' being an alias to 'Brammer' or something like that. But have not been able to find it. What we now have is a supposed nephew of Dieuwertgen Claesdr called 'van Tol' which is not a lot to go on.

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There is also an Arent Maartensz Brammer mentionned around 1545 in the area 's Gravenzande/Maasdijk/ de Lier. Ideally some 10 years late to be a candidate father to Claes Arentsz Brammer, but i'll put the links in here anyway. No indication where Arent Maartensz Brammer actually lived.

Protocol van transporten en schuldbrieven van ’s-Gravenzande en Zandambacht 1550 – 1581

"[5268] f. 82 d.d. 28-11-1553 [ambacht van ’s Gravenzande]: Jacop Dircxsz. en Aerent Maertsz. Brammer bekenden uit kracht van procuratie van meester Aerent Dircxsz. Vos pastoor in De Lier te verkopen aan Joost Ruelofsz. 9 morgen land gelegen te ’s Gravenzande."

REPERTORIUM OP DE LENEN VAN DE HOFSTAD VAN DER WATERINGE, 1299-1770

"Het leen 27 gesplitst in 27A en 27B. 27A. De helft van 2 morgen land (1515: gemeen met Jacob Arlewijnsz., belend ten oosten: de oude dijk waarop de woning van Gerit Jansz. staat, ten westen: de Maesdijk). [...]

31-1-1538: Meester Arent Dirricksz., pastoor van de Lier, hulde door zijn zwager Ariaen Martijnsz., alias Brammer.
13-1-1569: Heer Hubert Adriaensz. van Delft, pastoor van de Liere, na verzuim, hulde door Kors Petersz. in de Liere.
1-2-1569: Jan Symonsz. in de Liere, hulde door zijn vader Symon Jansz., na overdracht door meester Arent Dirricksz., pastoor in de Liere."

Both documents also mention the same 'master' Arent Dircksz Vos, 'pastor' in de Lier who is called 'zwager' to Brammer. Since we are talking Catholic clergy the odds are Vos is unmarried, so Brammer supposedly is married to a 'Dircksdr Vos'