Yes, that's right. The original of the sale on 21-01-1671 you may find here <scan 170-171> . As his widow, Maertgen was still in debt on 23-02-1669 <scan 135-134> where on 135 right you'll find Maertgen Dircksdr van Beijeren as widow of Engel Dircksz van Steijn.
The date of 21-01-1671 crops up again on 28-03-1727 when the house is sold by the heirs of Aafje Jans Naerdenburgh who had been married to Adriaen Jansz van Duijn. It might well be that he was a brother of Maertgen.

This might also lead us to the ancestors of Maertgen Jansdr van Duijn. I've been looking for a sale of this house (at the Veenderweg) to Nanning Dirckszs but I couldn't find any. This is probably because he or his wife inherited it. I think it's the house mentioned in ORA Lisse 8 on 13-05-1649, when Adriaen Maertensz van Duijn sells half of it to a Pieter Maertensz (brother or not, doesn't matter). As far as I'm aware Adriaen Maertensz had no children but he had a brother Jan Maertensz Verduin who could be the father on Maertgen and Adriaen. Then Adriaen Jansz has bought back the family property, which is something that you'll encounter more often. The parents of Jan Maertrenz you'll find in family C3058.

Regards, Frans

I'm going out on a limb and ask:  was Maertgen Jansdr van Duijn, wife of Nanning Dirks van Beyeren, the mother of Crijnte, Dirk, Jannitge, Neeltge, Pieter and Theuntge Nannings van Beyeren?

I think we already had established that Neeltgen, Dirck and Theuntge were Nanning's children. There is no evidence that he had another wife before Maertgen, but in theory, it's possble (which it is in many cases when we don't even consider it ;-(    I can't say for certain Steve.

Jannetgen and Pieter were certainly sister and brother, and at the baptism of Dirck's eldest child we see as a witness Teuntje Nanningsdr in haer plaets Jannetje Nanningsdr. So I'd say it's likely that Jannetje was also a sister of Neeltgen and Dirck. But I don't know about Crijntie.

Regards, Frans

Hi Frans:  Bowing to your knowledge of these families, I'm inclined to agree that Maertgen Jansdr van Duijn was the only known wife of Nanning Dirks van Beyeren.  I'm curious about any land deeds for Jan Maertensz Verduin.  

I have been looking some more at Nanning Dircksz and his house. The first time (ever) that he is mentioned in on 23-05-1652, when Claes Claesz buys a house in Lisse (the centre of the village) and Nanning Dircksz is the NW belender. I'm not too familiar with the streetnames there, but it looks like Lageweg en Veenderweg are used for the same road. When Nanning's house is sold in 1671, Claes Claesz is the SE belender. That fits, it must be the same house and so Nanning already lived there in 1652. 
Now, if I'm right about the house coming from his wife's family then he was already married in or before 1652 (probably recently, as his birth year will be after a year or couple of years after 1623 and Maertgen was younger). Their presumed children marry 1678-1684 (Dirck the first, Neeltgen the last and the others in 1680/81). They are probably born 1655-1665 which means that from my point of view it is now highly likely that Maertgen Jansdr was indeed the mother of Nanning's children.

I haven't any more info an Jan Maertensz than his marriage to Claesgen Jansdr in Lisse (Geref.) on 09-11-1625. You may find that in he church records through FS or Gahetna (I think they're transcribed there). Three children before the baptism records stop (Maerten, Pieter and Pieter) and no Maertgen and Adriaen - if they are their children, they must have been born after the early 1630's. 

Regards, Frans

Frans:  I was looking at these deeds and it appears father and son (Dirck Nanningszn. and Nanning Dirckszn.) lived in the same vicinity or neighborhood.  Notice the same name:  Jacob Gerritszn. Roo or Jacob Gerritszn. Rode is mentioned.

Rechterlijk Archief van Lisse inv.no. 8:

318. 17-5-1643. Jacob Crijnenzn. verkoopt Jacob Gerritszn. Roo een huis en erf gelegen aan het Berchout, belend NO de weduwe van Jacob van Damme, ZO Dirck Nanningszn., ZW de weg en NW Gerrit Leendertszn., belast met 20 st erfpacht per jr tbv Leendert Corneliszn. En 100 gulden tbv de erfgenamen van Dirck Adriaenszn. Larum, voor 480 gulden boven de belasting.

318v. 17-5-1643. Jacob Gerritszn. Roo verkoopt Dirck Nanningszn. 20 roe erf gelegen tussen verkopers en kopers huis, zijnde een gedeelte van hetgeen verkoper gekocht had van Jacob Crijnenzn., belend aan de ene zijde de weg of Berchout en aan de andere zijde de weduwe van Jacob van Damme, belast met 10 st per jr tbv Leendert Corneliszn., voor 150 gulden boven de belasting.

232. 24-5-1657. Jacob Gerritszn. Rode verkoopt Jannetge Maertensdr. weduwe van Floris Jacobszn. een huis en erf gelegen aan de Lage- of Veenderweg, belend NO de oude Beek, ZO Nanning Dirckszn., ZW de voorsz. beek en NW Gerrit Leendertszn., belast met 15 gulden per jr tbv Maritge Cornelisdr. wonende Haarlem en 10 st per jr tbv Leendert Jongen Engel, voor 200 gulden.

yes, I see. Bit do you mean to imply that Nanning's house was that of his father? Because that sort of undermines my theory about Maertgen Jansdr van Duijn.....

regards, Frans

I was implying Nanning lived near his father?

hmm, but the thing is, on 23-05-1652 the house of  Claes Thomasz is sold - where Nanning Dircksz is NW belender, while on 02-12-1642 this house is bought bij Claes Thomasz, and then Dirck Nanningsz is NW belender.... 

Hi Frans:

I am not doubting your original hypothesis.  What I was attempting to show was the family living patterns (or lack of better way of expressing myself here), nor am I doubting Nanning Dircksz's parentage.  Things like this fascinate me as it gives me a snapshot of where the family lived during that period of time.  I do agree with your post of February 18 that Maertgen Jansdr van Duijn was the mother of the children she had by Nanning.

Regards,

Steve

No problem Steve, I didn't read it as doubt. It's just that I'm prone to picking holes in my own theories...

Regards, Frans

One thing I may have learned from looking at these transactions is when Dirck Nanningszn was last living, he may have passed away after 21 June 1648:

Rechterlijk Archief van Lisse inv.no. 8:

86. 21-6-1648. Jacob Gerritszn. Roo schuldig aan Maritge Cornelisdr. wonende Haarlem 18 gulden 15 st per jr met hypotheek op zijn huis en erf gelegen aan de Lagenweg, belend NO de weduwe van Jacob van Damme te Haarlem, ZO Dirck Nanningszn., ZW de weg en NW Gerrit Leendertszn. Afgelost 17-2-1725.

So far, I haven't turned up anything more definitive as far as a burial date.

Hi Frans:  In my travels on the Internet, I found this item:

In 1630 vermeldingen in het dingboek van het baljuschap Noordwijkerhout. Met hierin de broers Pieter, Klaas en Dirk Nanningsz van Beijeren en Bergen in Henegouwen. Het zou daarbij gaan om kleinzoons van Cornelis Nanningsz van Beijeren en Jannetje Gerrits van Tiel. De laatste dochter van Gerrit Dirksz van Thiel en Anthonia Klaas van Sanen. ARA RANo No 10 / dit volgens holands noorderkwartier dl.70 06-2007. 

The abbreviation I darkened must mean A.R.A. Rechterlijk Archief Noordwijkerhout, Number 10.  Where can I locate this?  Unsure of the context of the record or if the author was making an inference about family relationships but all the same, I'd like to see for myself.

Thanks.

Steve

Concerning Dirck Nanningszn's house, I made note of the following:

Rechterlijk Archief van Lisse inv.no 4:
291. 29-10-1619 stilo novo. Harmen Janszn. Vogel als te anderen tijde jegens Pieter de Brouwer recht en opdracht verkregen hebbende van de beternis van een erf met getimmerd huis en draagt dit huis nu op aan Wip Harmenszn. de Vries, belend en belast volgens de oude brief behalve de NW belending welke nu is Cornelis Gerritszn. de Monnick ipv Jan Gerritszn. van Delden. Voldaan met een schuldbrief van 225 gulden.

Rechterlijk Archief van Lisse inv.no 5:
91. 11-6-1623. Wipke Harmanszn. de Vryes heeft op 29-10-1619 van Harman Janszn. Vogel opdracht gekregen welk recht hij nu overdraagt aan Dirck Nanningszn. van Beyeren, alles volgens de oude brief (betreft een huis en erf) voor 440 gulden boven de belasting van een erfpacht van 20 st per jr.

The Pieter de Brouwer, if I am not mistaken, was the father of Anthonia Pier De Brouwersdochter who married Dirk Nanningsz. van Beyeren in 1620.

Further back-tracking I found this entry:

Rechterlijk Archief van Lisse inv.no 3:

178. 16-12-1603 stilo novo. Pieter de Brouwer van Moerbeecke verkoopt Jan Gerritszn. van Delden kleermaker een leeg erf om daarop een huisje te bouwen gelegen in de Beeckstraat, belend NO de Beek, ZO de verkoper, ZW de Lageweg en NW Hendrick Brom, belast met 20 st per jr tbv Jan Douwen weduwe en kinderen volgens de brief van 8-1-1595, berustende onder Hendrick Brom voorsz. voor 22 gulden.

Rechterlijk Archief van Lisse inv.no 4:

1v. 5-4-1608. Pieter de Brauwer van Moorbeecke in Vlaenderen heeft in oktober 1605 ontvangen van Pieter van der E lathouwer 36 gulden daarvoor hij 2 gulden 5 st per jr zal betalen, met waarborg zijn huis en erf of de beterschap daarvan gelegen op erfpachtsgrond aan de Beeckstraat, belend NW Jan Gerritszn. van Delden kleermaker, NO de Beek en daarover Dirck Adriaenszn. van Larum, ZO Quirijn Janszn. de Goede en ZW de Lageweg. Afgelost 25-9-1611 door Harman Janszn.

33v. 15-7-1609. Pieter de Brauwer van Moerbeecke in Vlaenderen verkoopt Harman Janszn. gehuwd met Maritge Brom een vidimus van een erfpachtsbrief van 16-12-1603 en de erfpachtsbrief van 8-1-1595 onder Frans Franszn. Verham van 2 gulden per jr tbv Jannetge Jan Rous weduwe en nog belast met 20 st per jr, belend NW Jan Gerritszn. van Delden, NO de Beeck, ZW Quirijn Janszn. de Goede en ZO de Lageweg, voor 110 gulden.

Are these clues to Pieter's origins?

Steve

The reference is from the archives of the Baljuwschap Noordwijkerhout, Voorhout, Hillegom en Lisse (these places didn't have their own baljuw, but a combined court) and is from some time ago. They were first held at ARA (Algemeen Rijks Archief) which was renamed NA (Nationaal Archief) and they were transferred a couple of years back to ELO at Leiden. You can see them here <link> .
Only one part has been scanned (nr 6 from the criminal cases, 1698-1726) but you need another one. No. 10 was the old number of the criminal cases 1615-1619 (at ELO now nr. 3) but there are no records of 1630, as far as I can see.  So if nr. 10 is correct, then the reference is older.

The family relationships around that time that Remco has on his site for the Van Beijerens are the same as I have them in my database. Which doesn't necessarily mean that they are correct of course. The reference in that dingboek would be a welcome addition for my files as well.

I haven't done any research into Pieter de Brouwer, but you're right, this must be him and so he is from Flanders - there is another entry which says he's from Moorbeecke in Vlaanderen.

Regards, Frans

I will definitely share with you with what ever info I obtain from the dingboek, Frans.  You've been immensely helpful.

Moving to the next generation back in time, I'm troubled by the marital history of Nanning Cornelisz. van Beyersen (Dirk Nanningsz.'s father).  Some accounts show the mother to be Pietertje Dirks van Larum or oude Maritje Pieters Keyser van Santvilet.  These items which caused me to scratch my head:  

Rechterlijk Archief van Lisse inv.no. 1:

81. 3-4-1582. Cornelis Jacobszn. van der Does kalkbrander te Leiderdorp en Pietertge Dircksdr. weduwe van Nanning Corneliszn. met jonge Dirck Dirckszn. Larum haar vader en gekoren voogd verkoopt Jacob Floriszn. Heemskerck 3 morgen land gelegen in de Lagevenen, belend NO Jan van Brouckhoven, ZO dezelfde en de boedel van Willem Pieterszn., ZW Cornelis IJsbrantszn. Rootgen en NW de vaart. Borg Cornelis Dirckszn. Larum.

Rechterlijk Archief van Lisse inv.no. 3:

221. 30-5-1605 stilo novo. Cornelis Pieterszn. Keyser, oude Cornelis Floriszn. man en voogd van jonge Maritge Pietersdr., oude Maritge Pietersdr. weduwe van Nanning Corneliszn. met Jan Claeszn. van Santvliet haar oom als haar gekoren voogd, Adriaen Willemszn. van Steenvoorden man en voogd van Hubertge Pietersdr., jonge Cornelis Floriszn. man en voogd van Adriana Pietersdr. met Pieter Pieterszn. Keyser hierna genoemd, gezamenlijke universele erfgenamen van Maritge Cornelisdr. Keyser weduwe van Pieter Claeszn. verkopen de voorsz. Pieter Pieterszn. Keyser 5/6 van een camp land genaamd de venne groot 8 hond daarvan de koper 1/6 toebehoort gelegen in de Oostpolder, belend NO Hendrick Adriaenszn. Langevelt en ZO, ZW en NW Jan Anthoniszn. met Anna Anthonisdr. en Cornelis Anthoniszn. zijn zuster en broer, alles volgens de oude brief.

Either we're talking about two different Nanning Cornelisz.'s, transcription error, or a man rising from the dead and got re-married (WOW!)  The bottom line:  Unsure which one is the correct candidate to be Dirk Nanningszn. mother.

Pietertgen Dircksdr (van Larum) was married to Nanning Cornelisz van Barrinckhooren. They had Jannetgen, Pieter and Nanning and lived in Leiderdorp.

oude Maritgen Pietersdr (Keijser) was married to Nanning Cornelisz van Beijeren. They had  Claes, Pieter and Dirck and lived in Lisse.

regards, Frans

Problem solved.  Thanks, Frans!

I think I left this one twisting in the wind.  

According to this online pedigree (https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/oomen-stamboom/I2615.php), Pieter Claes Willemsz van Santvliet was identified as the son of Claes Willemsz van Santvliet and Annetge Meeuwesdr Meeussen, and Maritgen Cornelisdr "Marijtje" Keijser as the daughter of Cornelis Willemsz Keijser.  These families lived in Lisse during the 16th century.  Tried to locate documentation which confirmed the parentage of this couple, such as the Rechterlijk Archief van Lisse, but I was unable to find anything.   Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks.