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Hello,

Please forgive my writing in English. I am not able to write in Dutch. 

Here is a link to the naval record of seaman David Tans.

http://www.gahetna.nl/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascan/eadid/2.12.14/inventarisnr/525/scans-inventarispagina/27/foto/NL-HaNA_2.12.14_525_0527/fotouuid/96f80c64-a073-6807-ce01-394b76125f9f/scan-index/97

First, this is a Royal Navy record, right?

Most of David's record I can read and understand, but the handwriting, the Dutch language, and the navy jargon and abbreviations give me much trouble understanding the entries in 2 columns: "Overplaatsingen" and "Aanmerkingen."  I would be very grateful if someone could interpret and explain each of the entries for David Tans in those 2 columns.  

Note: Many of the place names in the column Overplaatsingen are cities in the Dutch East Indies that I am familiar with. There are some place names that appear to be in the Netherlands or other places -- it is these that I need help with.

I conclude from the entry "Br. Medaille" that he received a medal. What is the significance of this type of medal?

Thank you very much for any help you can give.

Gordon Tans
USA

Gordon Tans - 3 dec 2018 - 20:18

E(e)reteken = decoration; Gesp = buckle; Br. = bronzen.

G. Karssenberg - 3 dec 2018 - 20:45 (laatst bijgewerkt 3 dec 2018 — 21:14 door auteur)

Herwijnen is a village in the Netherlands - zie "Google".

G. Karssenberg - 3 dec 2018 - 20:48

Hermanus Leonardus Fans(!), geboren op 25.4.1818 in Heusden, zoon van Leonardus Fans en Johanna Dientjes, huwt in Veen op 16.7.1846 met Marianna Dammers, geboren op 9.1.1824 in Veen, dochter van Matijs Dammers en Pieternella van Rijthoven.

G. Karssenberg - 3 dec 2018 - 21:56

A bronze medal is received for long-term, honest and faithful service in the army. Bronze was given after 12 years, silver after 24 years.

These medals were given at royal navy personal with a rank, lower then an officer. 

Column "Aanmerkingen"

- Eereteeken (honorsign)

Atjeh 1873/6

10 sept 1877 no 54.

- Gesp (a kind of clip you put on the ribbon of the medal) Samalangan *

23 oct 1879 no 44.

- Bronze Medal

19 augustus 1885 no. 50

7 jan 1886 no. 78

* see this site for pictures and the 1877 gesp. This "gesp" was given as a sign for participation of this expedition.

http://www.yser.eu/html/medailles/nederland_kruis_voor_krijgsverrichtingen.html

Bedet - 3 dec 2018 - 22:04

Thank you G Karsenberg.

The Hermanus "Fans" that you point to is indeed the father of David Tans.  The name "Fans" is definitely incorrect both for Hermanus and his father Leonardus.  It is the result of either a writing error or a misreading of a record. The surname is Tans (or Thans) in all other records of the family.

Gordon

Gordon Tans - 5 dec 2018 - 21:08

Bedet, you have helped a great deal. Thank you for this explanation.  I am especially grateful for the link to the actual gesp and ribbon.

But what is the significance of the NUMBER following the dates, such as 54, 44, 50, and 7 in this list:

Atjeh 1873/6

10 sept 1877 no 54.

Gesp Smalangan

23 oct 1879 no 44.

- Bronze Medal

19 augustus 1885 no. 50

7 jan 1886 no. 7

And do you understand the entry below those dates and numbers that seems to read "Enh Stand aen Oorlog"?  (Sorry, I struggle with the handwriting).

Thanks,

Gordon

Gordon Tans - 5 dec 2018 - 21:28

Extr(act) Stamb(oek) aan Oorlog

Frank Fransz - 6 dec 2018 - 09:08 (laatst bijgewerkt 6 dec 2018 — 09:09 door auteur)

Zie "Google" via "Atjeh oorlog".

G. Karssenberg - 6 dec 2018 - 10:34

Idem: "Samalangan".

G. Karssenberg - 6 dec 2018 - 10:37

I don't know exactly what these numbers mean. I found on "google" an explanation, which maybe right.

In the column "aanmerkingen" the references to the year and serialnumber of the related deeds (in dutch: verwijzingen naar jaartal en volgnummers van verbalen die hiermee verband houden)

I have no idea where to find these "verbalen".

Bedet - 6 dec 2018 - 21:00

Ahh, thank you. 

Does Extr(act) Stamb(oek) aan Oorlog suggest there is a more detailed stamboek available, or is the current record the most complete?

Gordon

Gordon Tans - 6 dec 2018 - 23:09


This is all. The 'stamboek' of the Marine.

I think that an extract of this book has been sent to the Departement van Oorlog (department of war)

That explains the word 'aan'. The writer was a bit lazy.

Frank Fransz - 7 dec 2018 - 09:05 (laatst bijgewerkt 7 dec 2018 — 11:37 door auteur)







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