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Thank You for this information. Maybe a clue there for me.

Cheers

Shirley

Shirley Hohm-nee (Wenting) - 14 feb 2022 - 17:48

I wouldn't bother too much about a different surname for the mother in the death certificate. It happens all the time. Children and neigbours very often never knew the parents of the deceased. There was no control, so sometimes they just invented a name to be not too embaressed when asked. And sometimes they just had heard a name but had no clue where it belonged in the family history. (I found names of sisters in law as mothers etc). 

Annemarie57 - 14 feb 2022 - 18:33 (laatst bijgewerkt 14 feb 2022 — 18:33 door auteur)

March 1. A child of Anna Boekhoven

Of which the father is Hendrik Smitz

being the marriage between these two

........ according the placard

of unequal marriages.........

............H Smitz Roman Catholic and

Anna Boekhoven immature is.

Baptism witnesses are

the father and mother of Anna

Boekhoven. the child Christiaan 

(sorry for spelling and grammatical errors. Google)

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Rob van der Weijde - 14 feb 2022 - 20:43 (laatst bijgewerkt 14 feb 2022 — 21:03 door auteur)

Most likely this is her and her parents

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Rob van der Weijde - 14 feb 2022 - 20:54

Het huwelijk tussen hen beiden is "geweerd".

G. Karssenberg - 14 feb 2022 - 20:59

Here the marriage of Hendrik and Johanna. Stated that his is from Ree in Munsterland

Here dead of Hendrik Smitskamp 14 jan 1793 (first one)

Here dead of Johanna Bokhove 30 aug 1793 (second from bottom)

Rob van der Weijde - 14 feb 2022 - 21:18

En Ree zou wel eens Rheda kunnen zijn.

G. Karssenberg - 14 feb 2022 - 22:21

Thank you. I was thinking it was Christiaan who was maybe too young to marry? trying to decipher the writting on the one I posted. 

Shirley Hohm-nee (Wenting) - 14 feb 2022 - 22:29

Yes thank you I just discovered this late last night in my searching and thought the same thing. :)

Shirley Hohm-nee (Wenting) - 14 feb 2022 - 22:31

being the marriage between these two

........ according the placard

of unequal marriages.........

............H Smitz Roman Catholic and

Being the marriage between these two 

[geweerd geworden] being barred according the placard

of unequal marriages [dewijl de boven] and the above 

[gemeldde] mentioned Hendrik Smitz,  rooms en Anna etc.

The blockage of the marriage was mainly due to the fact that Hendrik is/was RC and Anna Dutch Reformed. Most pastors would only bless this ceremony when one of the partners changed religion. But Anna was under aged and this was used as an excuse to refuse permission.

There is an old Dutch saying "twee geloven op een kussen, daar komt de duivel tussen"  Two religions on one pillow and the devil will come in between.

After the birth of three illegal children, one realized that barring made no more sense.

Jan Achterberg - 14 feb 2022 - 23:28 (laatst bijgewerkt 14 feb 2022 — 23:31 door auteur)

OMG . Thank you very, very much for translating this. All I could get out of it was  that one was too young to marry.  lol

 

Cheers

Shirley

Shirley Hohm-nee (Wenting) - 15 feb 2022 - 01:06


Well I think I found the Hardam, I was looking for. 

Hendrik Smitskamp married Johanna Boekhoven

Johanna Boekhoven's parents were Adrianus Boekhoven and Jannigje Jacobs dr Herdam (Hardam) they married 10 Dec 1730.

Their son Christiaan Smitskamp Marries Jacoba van Zoelen-  her mother's name was Aaltje van Bommel

So the reporting of Christianns's wife's death was incorrectly reported as Aaltje Hardam instead of Aaltje van Bommel.

The mother of Johanna Boekhoven's name was Jannigje Jacobsdr Hardam marriage to Adrianus Boekhoven 10 Dec 1730. 

That's how I believe the mix up on the mothers name on Jaoba van Zolens death happened.

Thought I would share this as everyone including you were trying to be so helpful in finding this Aaltje Hardam. :)

Shirley Hohm-nee (Wenting) - 2 mar 2022 - 03:13







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