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Hi, I would like to ask some help with understanding an entry in the Diaconieweeshuis. I do not need the whole entry transcribed (although if someone is keen, it would be a bonus). I think I understand the general information like who Harmen's parents were, and that information was recorded every year (money earned by an apprenticeship?). Can someone help me understand the general messages of Harmen's time at the Diaconieweeshuis, what the numbers in the columns mean (money earned? financial support for Harmen?), and especially what happened to him in the right-hand column?

Link to the original is here.

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Ciska den Haring - 18 sep 2025 - 02:55 (laatst bijgewerkt 18 sep 2025 — 09:28 door auteur)

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It may be useful to insert the link to this document, the handwriting is rather small.

JacobsM - 18 sep 2025 - 07:39

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EDITED to include the correct page. 

Thank you M Jacobs77, I've included the link in the original post and here.

Ciska den Haring - 18 sep 2025 - 07:56 (laatst bijgewerkt 18 sep 2025 — 09:29 door auteur)

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Hans Blondeel Timmerman - 18 sep 2025 - 08:16

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The small numbers is money spent on behalf of the orphan(s), new clothing e.g. 

Annemarie57 - 18 sep 2025 - 11:54

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When Harmen Roelofs entered the Diaconie Weeshuis he was 14 years old and son of Immetie Meijnders and Arent Roelofz. (not completely sure here, as there is no comma between the names of the parents). He was entered  26 januarij 1686.
The total cost of his upbringing was 1497 guiders and 6 stuivers (nickels?). Harmen earned in total 285 guilders and 15 stuivers.

He left the orphanage on 5 may 1697 with consent of the Weeshuis management with a full 'uitzet'. That is a standard package of clothing, etc that all orphans receive on departure. The itemized list of his expenses mentions what clothing he received at what price.

Michaël

Boers 2 - 18 sep 2025 - 11:55

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There is another document in the Amsterdam city archives which is possibly related to the one you're researching.

The file dates February 7th, 1669, Diaconie Orphanage.   It's about Arent Roelofs and Immetij Mijnderts, it includes the baptism records of Trijntie and Roelof, two of their children.  Trijntie was baptised in the Lutheran church, Roelof in the Noorderchurch.

Harmen may not have been born yet in 1669.

https://archief.amsterdam/indexen/deeds/99e580fa-0e41-6cd7-e053-b784100a0240?person=99e580fa-0e42-6cd7-e053-b784100a0240

JacobsM - 18 sep 2025 - 15:56 (laatst bijgewerkt 18 sep 2025 — 15:59 door auteur)

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Thanks everyone, that seems straightforward to me! Just confirming that there's no details about what he did to earn that wage, and where he moved to?

Ciska den Haring - 19 sep 2025 - 02:04


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Harmen may not have been born yet in 1669
 

Harmen was baptised in the Westerkerk 24-07-1671

https://archief.amsterdam/indexen/deeds/deac4781-a6b9-4f29-954f-47af789a2bbf

Anje B. - 19 sep 2025 - 09:07







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