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mvg-Ben

Ben Wegman - 17 nov 2024 - 19:45 (laatst bijgewerkt 17 nov 2024 — 19:47 door auteur)

Thank you for your post. However, Marie Geertsema was born 1888 - died 1950

kind regards,

Lydia

Lydia Olsen - 18 nov 2024 - 10:34

Hi Ben,

Thank you for your posts. They are most helpful in our search.

Have you been able to sight Marie Geertsema's birth certificate?

Have you any sources for her parents?

kind regards

Lydia

Lydia Olsen - 18 nov 2024 - 10:38

Birth certificate: see my reaction Ben Wegman - 14 nov 2024 - 17:14   Not on-line available.

"Have you any sources for her parents?"

No. See reaction -Bart- - 14 nov 2024 - 12:50

To be sure you have to look at the official documents (marriage contract, birth certificate) available on film of FS as explained earlier.

mvg-Ben

Ben Wegman - 18 nov 2024 - 10:47 (laatst bijgewerkt 18 nov 2024 — 10:53 door auteur)

If Geert Geertsema is her father than the militairy information gives you his parents and the name of his wife (as confirmation).

"Marie Geertsema was born 1888"

without any official document also 1886 can be correct. (also there is some variation in the place where she was born: Batavia or Medan)

kind regards, Ben

Ben Wegman - 18 nov 2024 - 10:59 (laatst bijgewerkt 18 nov 2024 — 11:01 door auteur)

@Lydia Olsen: It is indeed strange that Maria indicated in her application for remigration that she was born 21-10-1888 n Medan,  but according to Regerings Almanak no birth of  Marie or Maria Geertsema was recorded in 1888 in Medan.

Here is  page 309 of Regerings Almanak 1892 where  the birth of Maria Geertsema in 1886 in Batavia is recorded:

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                                                                           But if you prefer to keep it in 1888, feel free to do so...

Henri Bik - 18 nov 2024 - 11:00

May be the marriage certificate can be given the answer. I believe 1886 in Medan will be correct.

Kind regards, Ben

Ben Wegman - 18 nov 2024 - 12:06

Lydia,

The marriage record (Civil Registry  Batavia, marriage register 1908, entry nr. 110) shows the following:

Maria Geertsema, born Deli, 21  years old, living in Batavia, daughter of the native woman Oeriep, deceased, and recognised by Geert Geertsema, 'schout bij de politie' [chief of police] in Batavia, living in Batavia.

leo48 - 23 nov 2024 - 11:43

Mooi Leo!

We kunnen er dus van uitgaan dat Maria Geertsema, geboren 21-10-1886, een dochter is van Geert Geertsema en ene Oeriep. Geerts vrouw Geertruida Elisabeth Bell (met wie hij in 1891 trouwde) is dus niet de moeder van Maria.

Anneke 12 - 23 nov 2024 - 13:37

Top, Leo. Bedankt.

mvg-Ben

Ben Wegman - 23 nov 2024 - 16:44

Interesting comments about Marie. How was the conclusion reached that Geert Geertsema was Marie's father as ourthoughts are that he was too old and there were a number of Geertsema's around.

Lydia Olsen - 28 nov 2024 - 12:14

How was the conclusion reached that Geert Geertsema was Marie's father as ourthoughts are that he was too old 

He recognized Maria. This of course doesn't give the absolute certainty that he is also the father, but he was certainly not too old: he was born in 1861 and was therefore 25 years old at the time of Maria's birth.

Anneke 12 - 28 nov 2024 - 13:35


@Lydia Olsen: What is wrong with you.?  Leo48 wrote:

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Lydia,

The marriage record (Civil Registry  Batavia, marriage register 1908, entry nr. 110) shows the following:

Maria Geertsema, born Deli, 21  years old, living in Batavia, daughter of the native woman Oeriep, deceased, and recognised by Geert Geertsema, 'schout bij de politie' [chief of police] in Batavia, living in Batavia.

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Is not that enough for you.?

Henri Bik - 28 nov 2024 - 13:37







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