Who were the parents of Frederika Denneboom born 2 July 1903 in Amsterdam, married to Isidore dee Lange born 24 Oct 1927 in Amsterdam?

Did she have any brothers and sisters?

thank you for your assistance

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I am afraid that not all of your information is correct. I have found a so-called -archiefkaart (from the city of Amsterdam)- of Isodore de Lange.

That card tells:

Isodore de Lange, born 24-10-1927 in Amsterdam is a daughter of Louis de Lange and Frederika Tas.

She died in Sobibor .

Louis de lange was born 12-10-1904 in Amsterdam

Frederika Tas was born 02-07-1903  in Amsterdam

So, I didn't think Isodore was married before 1943.

I have the archiefkaart now and can send this to you. If you like it, please clic on my name below the message to make contact.

Best  regards, Ben

Some additional information:

Frederika Tas, born 02-07-1903 in nAmsterdam was the daughter of Levie Tas and Betje Slier.

She married Louis de Lange 23-12-1926 in Amsterdam. According her card there was only one daughter.

She also died in Sobibor 04-06-1943.

I have no further information about Louis

Kind regards, Ben

ps. I also found the card of Louis de Lange. He was a son of Isaac de Lange en Bloeme Hakker. He died 04-06-1943 in Sobibor. His profession was coiffeur.

And what to do with your question of Denneboom?

Dear Ben,thanks for your quick responmse.

Indeed, I misread my notes: Isidore de Lange is the son of Frederika Denneboom.

My major interest is in the Denneboom family.

Besides Frederika mentioned, I also found (possible sisters and brothers?)

Marianna Denneboom 211/6/1908 A'dam-6/3/1944 Auschwitz married with Philip Visschoonmaker 27/5/1911 A'dam-31/7/1944 ?

Meyer Denneboom 26/6/1905 A'dam-22/10/1943 Auschwitz

Vrouwtje Denneboolm buried Zeeburg 24/12/1899 C 12 44, daughtger of Benjamin DenneboomNn

NN Denneboom maried with Bertje Gobetz buried Diemen 12/6/1930 B16 75

NN Denneboom married with Rebecca Riff buried Diemen 1/6/1931 B 24 18

Joel Meijer Danneboom (Denneboom) 23/6/1903 A'dam-buried diemen C 32 49, married with

   Marianne Rine 29/12/1903 A'dam-7/5/43 Sobibor; I know of 4 children Maurine, Jacob,Benjamion Joel

   and Meyer Joel.

This will almost complete my Denneboom family tree, and I will gladly exchange all information assembled so far.(my late sister was married with Menno Denneboom).

Do I ask too much???

At this moment I can not understand your question. Yuo wrote:

Isodore de Lange is a boy born 24 Oct 1927 and son of  Frederika Denneboom born 02-07-1903

I found Isodore de Lange is a girl born 24 Oct 1927 and daughter of  Frederika Tas born 02-07-1903

Please have a new look to your notes. And I can send the cards to you.

Also you can do an investigation youselve. https://stadsarchief.amsterdam.nl/archieven/archiefbank/indexen/archiefkaarten/zoek/index.nl.html

Without a credit it is not possible to have a look to the original documents but  it is possible to see which relatives there are with a document in the archive of Amsterdam. Archiefkaart means a card of the person, implemented after 1939 with information of birth, marriage, death, children

Gezinskaarten  mean a card om the name mostly of the father and you can see who are living in the same house (wife, son, daughter and so on).

Best regards Ben

ps not all mentioned Denneboom members are part of the same family.

I  Isaac de Lange X Bloeme Hakker.

II Louis de Lange (coiffeur), * 10-10-1904 Amsterdam, + 04-06-1943 Sobibor,

   X 23-12-1926 Amsterdam, Frederika Tas, * 02-07-1903 Amsterdam, + 04-06-1943 Sobibor.

III Isidore de Lange, * 24-10-1927 Amsterdam, + 04-06-1943 Sobibor (15 years old).

II en III: Their house: Jodenbreestraat 51 hs Amsterdam.

@ A'dammer,

Heb jij het foutje gevonden? Ik denk dat de naam van de moeder verkeerd is en dus geen Denneboom maar Tas.

Ik heb de kaart van Benjamin Denneboom gehuwd met Eva Spijer opgehaald maar Frederika staat daar niet bij. Ik heb de volgende kinderen Rebecca 1884, Eva 1886, Anna 1887, Marianna 1890, Joel 1902/1902, Joel Meijer 1903, Benjamin 1908.

Dus ook de andere namen behoren ten dele bij andere familietakken.

mvg-Ben

@ Ben,

Ik ben zeker van I, II en III.

De Archiefkaarten en de Gezinskaart zijn overduidelijk en ondersteunen elkaar op alle punten.

Met vriendelijke groet.

Thanks. Bij mij was het ook zo. Alles klopt.

Ben

Thanks so much,however, all the children of Benjamin Denneboom and Evy Spijer you mentioned I do have already, and Benjamin 1908 was the son of Levi Denneboom and Saartje Slager.

The names I am trying to fit in were found in the lists of deported individuals or cemetery records.

Who were their parents/grandparents?

It is very difficult to research details from so far away.....

At this moment I have only about 24 names to add to say I have now about completed this file! Most other names I'm looking for are from Weesp, Hilversum,Losser and some from Dedemsvaart, Boxmeer, Zwolle, Avereest. and the odd one from Amsterdam born in the 1930s (must be children of the older ones mentioned).

May be I don't understand you completely. You are looking for Frederika Denneboom. Result: the person you refers has the name Frederika Tas. There is no son but a daughter.

Next question. You wrote:

Besides Frederika mentioned, I also found (possible sisters and brothers?)

Marianna Denneboom 211/6/1908 A'dam-6/3/1944 Auschwitz married with Philip Visschoonmaker 27/5/1911 A'dam-31/7/1944 ? and so on

Answer no sisters and brothers of this Frederika. By sending you the names of the children of  Benjamin and Evy :

For Marianna year of birth differs,

Meyer Denneboom 26/6/1905 A'dam-22/10/1943 Auschwitz

Vrouwtje Denneboolm buried Zeeburg 24/12/1899 C 12 44, daughtger of Benjamin DenneboomNn

NN Denneboom maried with Bertje Gobetz buried Diemen 12/6/1930 B16 75

NN Denneboom married with Rebecca Riff buried Diemen 1/6/1931 B 24 18

They are not children of this benjamin Denneboom.

I also put a link to the Amsterdam archive in my message. It will be usefull for further investigations. And you can donwload the archiefkaart.

For people outside of Amsterdam and died after 1939 you can order In The Hague a so-called persoonskaart with information of birth, death, marriage and parents

http://194.171.109.12/page/280/research

If you like to have the few cards I already have downloaded please contact me.

Kind regards

@ Ben Wegman and Amsterdammer,

First, for me, no doubt. The result of your search is correct.

Therefore, may I ask you to have a look at this page [Probably the source used by J.Somberg] :

www. joodsmonument.nl/institution-390295-nl.htlm. 

Under the titel "Zuidema - Denneboom and her family", there are only 2 persons :

- Isidore de Lange (Amsterdam 24.10.1927 - Sobibor 4.6.1943) Son

- Frederika de Lange -Tas (Amsterdam 2.7.1903 - Sobibor 4.6.1943) Relative

- No Mrs Denneboom !

- No Louis de Lange at the Jodenbreestraat 51 in February 1941 !

Louis de Lange (Amsterdam 10.10.1904 - Sobibor 4.6.1943) appears on another page

(www. joodsmonument.nl/person-541662-nl.html) with the mention "Adres niet bekend" [address unknowed].

What do you think of that ?  What to do ?

Best regards, Anne van buitenland.

First of all: please study the cards I have. I will contact you and send you the cards.

And thereafter we can see. May be the site you mentioned contains some errors. Nowadays it is easy for us to controll the data while Amsterdam has made the archefkaarten and gezinskaarten available on the web and for everybody.

Kind regards

Ben

ps 13:07hr  I have made a mistake. Isodore de lange is a boy. Sorry for misunderstandings. The adress of the family de Lange is correct. (situation 1940)

" Who were the parents of Frederika Denneboom born 2 July 1903 in Amsterdam, married to Isidore dee Lange born 24 Oct 1927 in Amsterdam? ".

Frederika Denneboom born 2 July 1903 is wrong. ( = Frederika de Lange-Tas)

The marriage is wrong. Isidore died 15 years old.

See:

Thanks all of you.

I am very familiar with the sites joodsmonument and the site at huij.il, as well as JewishGen etc.

Some of my info also came from relatives and undeniably there might be some mistakes (even Genlias has some).

Will continue to try to complete the Denneboom genealogy (sometimes the name was spelled Danneboom or Dannebaum).

I

Leo Denneboom married with Marianna Schar.

(child see II)

II

Joel Dennenboom (bontwerker), * 25-10-1883 Amsterdam, + 06-03-1944 Auschwitz,

married 12-12-1906 Amsterdam, with

Debora Gazan, * 25-10-1886 Amsterdam, + 06-03-1944 Auschwitz.

(children see III)

III

1) Marianna Dennenboom (verkoopster), * 21-06-1908 Amsterdam, + 06-06-1944 Auschwitz,

married 01-07-1936 Amsterdam, with

Philip Vischschoonmaker (bontwerker), * 27-05-1911 Amsterdam, + 31-07-1944 Midden-Europa.

2) Aäron Dennenboom (tekenaar borduurpatronen), * 23-12-1909 Amsterdam.

(Aäron must have survived the war because their is no hit in " the Digital Monument " and his

"Archiefkaart" is not yet public).

I

Abraham Denneboom married with Eva Denneboom.

(child see II)

II

Joël Denneboom (ambtenaar), * 23-11-1880 Avereest, + 04-06-1943 Sobibor,

married 21-06-1911 Uden, with

Geertruida Cohen, * 18-04-1885 Uden, + 04-06-1943 Sobibor.

(children see III)

III

1) Abraham Denneboom, * 08-04-1915 Amsterdam, + 31-03-1944 Auschwitz.

2) Gesina Denneboom, * 28-09-1917 Amsterdam, + 16-07-1943 Sobibor.

Beste Ben Wegman,

Thank you very much for your answer.

I can only agree with you : each genealogical information must always be controlled. And that is not too difficult in your country. Many excellent genealogical information are on-line. Het Stadsarchief Amsterdam (Vijzelstraat, 32) is a beautifull house, a place where I was happy to look for my ancestors. There the times goes bij too quickly.

Thanks too for your mail. I shall answer later.

Met vriendelijke groeten, Anne van buitenland.

@ Amsterdammer,

The card is an irrefutable evidence.

Thanks and congratulations for your last researches.

Met vriendelijke groeten, Anne van buitenland.