Huwelijk in Laren op 26.1.1749: Reint Broekman, onder Loghem heen, en de weduwe Fenneken Lenderinks tot Laren.
Forgotten!
G.Karssenberg - 4 jun 2014 - 19:06
Doopboek Lochem:
"00.03.1673 sal. Henrick Boenck uijt Laren Sijn Sone Henrick; Get. Arent Brandinck, Gerrit Mentinck en Marrie Cloosters".
G.Karssenberg - 5 jun 2014 - 11:01
Good morning! And thanks again and again!
So if I get it right, Teunis Lenderink and Fenneken Lenderinks (brother and sister?) get married to their respective partners on the same day - 15.9.1736, and 15 years later, both their partners (widowed by now?) are married to each other - Fenneken Boonk with Reijnt Broekman ( / te Broeke), and give birth to Teuntje (named after Teunis?). Wow... a topic for a movie... especially that we have now in the 20th century a Lenderink again in our family. (Actually for the first time, because both Teunis and F.Lenderink have "evaded" my direct ancestry line back then...)
And now we have Fenneken's father and grandfather, the Henriks. Thanks again!
May I ask what is "in Eexel" (is it a status, or a place's name?)?
And also - is Lochem/Loghem a place near/within Laren or an old name for Laren?
And could you send the link to the Laren archive? I did not find it via google.
It is amazing that your ancestor's brother and my 6th great grandmother have "shaken hands" 297 years ago...
Amos
Amos Boasson - 5 jun 2014 - 11:31
You can find scans of the archives in the Province of Gelderland on http://www.geldersarchief.nl/.
When searching with the name Boonk and place Laren, you will find a scan below the information (but its a long search to the right scan)
Mieke Roukens - 5 jun 2014 - 12:31
I followed the line Saurbeek:
Johannes Saurbeek (married to Aleida Praastink) died 4-5-1829 at Gouda
His son Johannes, 25 years, profession gold- and silverworker, notified the registration of the death of his father. He mentioned his age : 48 years and 1 month, his profession lock-keeper of the lock of the inner port. He lived and died on the Dubbele Buurt at the Port, his wife Alida Praastink was "tapster" (inn-keeper)
No parents were mentioned, but with the exact age it was easy to find his birth
04-04-1781 was baptised at Gouda Johannes , son of Johannes Sourbeek and Alida Goeting
This couple married in Limmen according to Wiewaswie:
Bruidegom:Jan SaurbeekBruid:Alida GoetingGebeurtenis:TrouwenDatum:donderdag 6 mei 1779Gebeurtenisplaats:LimmenDocumenttype:DTB TrouwenErfgoedinstelling:Regionaal Archief AlkmaarPlaats instelling:AlkmaarCollectiegebied:Noord-HollandArchief:20.4.006Registratienummer:01Aktenummer:31063Registratiedatum:6 mei 1779Akteplaats:Limmen
I could not find the church records of the protestant marriages of Limmen on internet, but when I looked into the book with minutes of the churchcouncil I found the marriage:06-05-1779 Jan Saurbeek, j.m. van over Hallauw in Zwitzerland, living in Gouda and Alida Goeting, j.d. born in Amsterdam, but lately living in Limmen
Over Hallauw must be Oberhallau http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberhallau
Mieke Roukens - 5 jun 2014 - 13:37
G.Karssenberg - 5 jun 2014 - 15:41
G.Karssenberg - 5 jun 2014 - 15:44
Amsterdam ondertrouw (original): 18.4.1732 (image 315):
Hendrik Goeting van Doesburg, oud 32 jaar in d' Anjeliersstraat, ouders dood, geass(isteerd) met sijn suster Hendrica Goeting & Teuntje Abbink van Angerloo, oud 31 jaar, op de Kijsersgraft haar vader Hendrik Abbink tot Angerloo.
G.Karssenberg - 5 jun 2014 - 15:58
G.Karssenberg - 5 jun 2014 - 16:04
Gedoopte kinderen in Amsterdam van Hendrick/Hendrik Goeting(h)/Hoetengh/Golsiengh/Goetin en Trijntje/Teuntje/Teuntie/Theuntie/Tuntie Abbenk/Abbinks/Abbienks/Abbings/Abbin:
Maas (Westerkerk - 1.2.1733); Barentie (Noorderkerk - 1.2.1736), Hendrikien (Noorderkerk - 29.1.1738),
Alida (Zuiderkerk - 20.1.1740) , Willemijntie (Oude Kerk - 20.2.1743) en Henderikie (Zuiderkerk - 23.6.1745).
G.Karssenberg - 5 jun 2014 - 16:32
The link to the Laren archive? - follow me:
www.geneaknowhow.net/digi/bronnen.html - Gelderland (internet) - Laren - e.g.: Laren index ref. dopen 1684-1811 - Laren (Geld.) - e.g. Laren (Geld.) Transcriptie N.H. Trouwboek.
G.Karssenberg - 5 jun 2014 - 16:53
Gerrit ten Broeke (4.6.2014 - 18.42) and Gerrit Berendsen (4.6.2014 - 18.34) are the same persons!
We are "nephews"!
G.Karssenberg - 6 jun 2014 - 05:30
G.Karssenberg - 6 jun 2014 - 09:01
Berent Janssen op de Schipbeeke (de Schipbeek is a little river) is (likely) gehuwd met Geertjen.
Children:
Herman (huwelijk: 7.9.1684 in Gelselaar) met Engele Rengerinck - (5 children);
Jan (huwelijk: 22.8.1686 in Gelselaar) met Jenneken Hendricks "op 't Nascheler" (farm) - (2 children);
Gerrit (huwelijk: 1.4.1688 in Gelselaar en in Markelo) met Aeltien Haevers - (3 children).
Albert: gedoopt in Lochem op 11.3.1666 (in wartime!) (getuige - among others - Jan Schipbeek (father)).
G.Karssenberg - 6 jun 2014 - 15:33
Good night!
Your findings are amazing! And as you wrote, we are family... That is truely amazing.
I did some of my homework, and saw most of the places mentioned in "our story" on the map and on Wiki.
I also succeeded to see the scans of the Gelselaar churchbook. If you would not have found it, and decyphered the handwriting for me, I would surely not have gotten to it. I hope I can one day contribute as well - to you or to Mieke or to Johanna (for example if you'll ever need to decypher/translate something in Hebrew or get to some documents here in my country, Israel).
So - many many thanks!
I can follow your transliteration and read Geertien's baptism of 1691 on page 40 of the churchbook.
The 2 first weddings I could not find/decypher... Is Gerrit's wedding in 1688 the one at the bottom of page 64?
Looking at that book, it seems the pastor was saving on ink and paper...
Amos
Amos Boasson - 7 jun 2014 - 00:42
Trouwboek Gelselaar 1.4.1688: "Gerrit Berentsen, S.v. w. Berent Jansen op de Schipbeecke, en Aeltien Haevers d.v. Roelof Haevers. Cop. 1 Apr. te Marckel (= Markelo)".
Children:
13.5.1688 (!) Berent, S.v. Gerrit Berentsen en Aeltjen, El., getuijgen Hermen Berentsen (brother), Gerrit Heuver (brother) en Trientien Rengerincks w. v. w. Hendrick Rengerinck.
7.6.1691 Geertien...
4.3.1694 Merrijtien, d.v. Gerrit Berentsen en Aeltien Havers El., get, Berent Gellekinck, Jenneken Bloemenae en Engele (sister) vrou van Hendrick Wolters.
G.Karssenberg - 7 jun 2014 - 08:55
En de doop van Aeltien Haevers/Heuvers/Rengerinck:
Gelselaar 14.6.1657:
*Aeltien, dochter van Roelof Rengerinck den Timmerman (carpenter), ende Geertien El. Getuigen Hendrick Aelberts, Trijntien toe Rengerinck ende Geertien toe Hilhorst".
G.Karssenberg - 7 jun 2014 - 09:02
You can find information (in Dutch) about the farm Gerrit Berentsen and Aeltien Haevers were living in 1688, it's still existing
Search on Google with "Boerderij Broekgerrit"
Mieke Roukens - 7 jun 2014 - 09:20
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