Thank you again for your interest and kind help.
The brief answer to your question is that I found a church book from Trondheim, Norway, of 1799 where it appears that “Dutch sailor” (“hollandsk matros”) Hendrik Philip Kale from the “Batavian frigate Pollux” married a Norwegian woman, Marthe Maria Johannesdatter.
I put in a – very – extensive overview below of my findings until date, should it be of any possible interest.
Kind regards
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Long answer:
In general I have some primary sources, some secondary sources (books), and some ideas for further searches for (possible) sources, or sources I have tried, but not yet given fully up on. I also mention that I have come across spelling variations including Hendrik, Heinrich, Henrich, Philipp, Philip, Filip, Philup and Karel, Carel, Karle, Carle, Cohl, Cahl, Cahle, Kale, Cale, Caarl, and so on. In the following, I will sometimes use only “Henrik Philip”.
Overall, I have the impression at present that Hendrik Philip Karel must have come from an area with a Germanic language, most likely today’s Netherlands or Germany. It seems clear that he sailed for the Netherlands and Batavia in the 1790s’s, and that he married and lived in Norway from 1799-1800 for some years, when he was not at sea. Thereupon, it seems that he went to sea again sometime early 1800 (in or after 1804-1805) and likely that he ended up in prison in England, where he died.
The following is a more detailed overview of what I have for the time being. It is in any event an interesting story. I will not copy in photos of all the sources, so to not make the post even longer:
1794 – primary source says he boarded the Dutch ship the Wassenaar on 19 August 1794 (the latest roll I found last night).
1795 – primary source says he transfers to the Pollux (the roll you had found yesterday), and the roll in my first post also confirms his role on the Pollux. (Note: He is registered as a soldier (“soldaat”) in the GW roll, in the Pollux roll it seems that “Soldaat” was first written, but then replaced with “Matroos” (significant?).)
1799 – secondary sources (books) tell a story of the Pollux having sailed south/east, but having ran into trouble (outside Surinam) and had to return. On the return they made however some manoeuvres to avoid being drawn into Napoleonic war-battles in the European waters, and they ended up in Norway, via Iceland. I have found a primary Icelandic source stating that a 40-cannot Dutch frigate “Pollux” stopped by there in August 1799, and some Norwegian newspapers confirming that a small convoy of some Dutch ships, including the Pollux, came to Trondheim, Norway, a little later that same year. The “40-cannon” description of Pollux is recurring in the sources.
From secondary sources I have found information that there was a kind of scandal in Trondheim, Norway, in 1799 involving an incident where the sailors from the Pollux fought with locals in the context of pubs/dance-nights, and this seems to be confirmed by an announcement in a local newspaper where the responsible for the ship apologises for his crew’s behaviour on the night in question. Possible sources: There was apparently a large police investigation of this (which led to the chief of police having to withdraw), and there might be for example interrogation reports, where Hendrik Philip could figure if he participated in the brawls. I have not yet succeeded, but continue to work on finding possible police protocols from the time).
1799 – a primary source; church book from Trondheim, Norway, states that the Dutch sailor (“hollandsk matros”) Henrik Philip Kale from the Batavian frigate “Pollux” marries a Norwegian woman Martha Maria Johannesdatter. The ship’s responsible gave some sort of confirmation that he could marry in this context. In a later criminal judgment (see below), the woman gives some more information about her life. Note: This is how I came about Hendrik Philip as a sailor on the Pollux. I have the impression that the phrase “Dutch sailor” does not necessarily mean he was Dutch, it could perhaps have been used simply because the ship was.
1800 – it follows from the above muster roll that Hendrik Philip is let go from the Pollux (something like “gedimitteered”) this year.
Around 1800 the couple moves to western Norway, not very far from the city of Bergen, where Hendrik Philip Kale became a journeyman (i.e. some type of “gezel”) at a paper mill. I have secondary sources (most notably an article from a Swedish review of “paper history”) which says that the owner of the mill was a Norwegian consul to the Netherlands (whose last name was Fasmer), who had many contacts in the Zaan-area north of Amsterdam (where there were many paper mills) and that he found a Dutchman named Claas Dirckszon Vos to become the master at the mill, and that Vos brought with him Hendrik Philip Cohl as journeyman. Possible sources: I have been in touch with those storing archives from the paper mill, who have been unable to provide anything (as the materials are unsorted). I am still hoping to be able to travel to Bergen, Norway and look through the archives myself one day. (I have also been in touch with the living persons from the family that owned the mill (Fasmer) as well as researchers in paper history, but to no success.) It seems in any event not correct that Vos brought Hendrik Philip with him from Holland; it would appear that he was already in Norway.
1801 – a primary source; census reads that Hendrik Philip Karel and his wife lives at the paper mill. Note: His age is stipulated at 24, which would give a birth year around 1777. How exact this might be, is unclear to me. A church book says that they had a child that year.
1804 – a church book says that they had a second child. It emerges that they had by then moved to another place, notably in the town/city of Bergen, Norway, and that Hendrik Philip was a “mill boy” at another paper mill there. Note: This could indicate that he had been fired from his work for the Dutch master.
1804-1805 – a naval/military registration was carried out in Bergen, Norway. In this primary source, it reads that Hendrik Philip was a mill journeyman in Bergen and note: that he was 35 years old and came from Germany (“Tyskland”).
1808 – a church book says that the couple had another child. Note: Hendrik Philip is then coined as a sailor (“matros”), but no ships are indicated.
1821 – Hendrik Philip’s Norwegian wife has been charged with some crimes, and in the judgment against her, available as a primary source, her testimony is reiterated. She says here that her baptism was confirmed in Trondheim, Norway, when she was 14, and that she thereafter worked for four years in Trondheim. It continues: “She thereafter became married to her now deceased husband Hendrich Philip Carl, with whom she moved to ‘Alvøen i Schjolds Skibrede’, where her husband became a journeyman at the mills. After 3 years, her husband left [the mill], went to sea, was caught and taken to England, where he died in prison”. Possible sources: I have made many attempts to look into sources concerning prisoners of war in England during the Napoleonic wars, but so far to no success. In addition to the name difficulties, there is also the issue that I am not entirely sure for which country he might have sailed (or even fought) (was he for example considered Dutch or Norwegian at this time? What ship (for which country) was he on when they were caught?).
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Addition 1: I have found some other sources relating to the Pollux. It is not entirely clear what happened to it. Some seem to claim it went to England after having been to Trondheim to rescue/return prisoners of war, but I have also found announcements in newspapers indicating that the ship was just “slaughtered”/cut up for sale (for example as the cannons were for sale).
2: One of Hendrik Philip’s children, the girl born in 1804, became involved with an apparently infamous criminal, on Wikipedia described as follows: “Gjest Baardsen (1791 – 13 May 1849) was a Norwegian outlaw, jail-breaker, non-fiction writer, songwriter and memoirist. He was among the most notorious criminals in Norway in the 19th century” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjest_Baardsen). In one of the books about him, it is mentioned that Hendrik Philip left the family shortly after their child in 1804 to go to sea and that he found a ship on which he entered as a “tømmermann”/timmermann. I have not been able to verify this.
3: The children:
a) The child born in 1801 grew up and had children. I have followed this branch to date and believe I have some overview of the descendants, but not found anything more about Hendrik Philip.
b) The child born in 1804 was also part of the criminal trial in 1821. She figures in some books because of her relationship to the “infamous criminal” above, but the sources are to me unclear, and no one seems to have found out anything more about what happened to her. It would appear that she died childless.
c) The child born in 1808 died shortly thereafter as poor.
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